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Big T
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| AJ wrote: | | Pies4shaw wrote: | | Grundy was magnificent. Treloar was the difference in that game. There's a reason Grundy's at the Club and Treloar isn't. You obviously didn't read the memo. |
There’s a reason the guys who made that decision aren’t at the club.
Is only Grundy had a q of the passion Adz had - he may have been able to make the top 5 ruckman in the comp |
Passion fingers maybe
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Pie-supporting journo Gleeson:
"What to do with Brodie Grundy
Then there was the ruck. Brodie Grundy is the most vexing player at Collingwood. Well, one of the most vexing given they have Jordy De Goey and Mason Cox.
Grundy looked spooked by Shane Mumford, with memories of the prelim final of 2019 haunting him.
Opposition teams are presently unconcerned at Grundy’s hitout numbers - they are routinely high - because they only worry if those hitouts translate to high clearances and for Collingwood they do not.
Grundy has little aerial presence around the ground for a man of his size. Collingwood needs its big men to play like big men, and Grundy presently is not.
He had two marks for the game and most notably he dropped an uncontested mark in front of Mumford at half-forward when Collingwood had momentum and a mark to him would have seen the ball kicked inside 50. The dropped ball went to the other end for a GWS goal."
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/four-points-collingwood-at-a-crossroads-grundy-spooked-dog-ruck-s-new-role-20210411-p57i6n.html |
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think positive 
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Wait til we get the team balance right, and he actually has someone to hit to, it’s easy to look good when those around you are not in the wrong spot or fumbling every pass. Can’t wait to see what McCrae does with the skills work.
Grundy looks frustrated, who can blame him? He works so $£$%^%%$ hard!
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stui magpie 
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Grundy is good at winning hitouts , sometimes he even hits them to our players.
What's needed is more coordination for him to players in position to use it dangerously
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Rd10.1998_11.1#36
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stui magpie
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Exactly.
Does he drop so many taps at his feet because that's the coaching plan, or because he wants to or because that's where the mids are?
Regardless, that needs to change
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Pies4shaw 
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| ^ It's plainly been the coaching plan. It was a strategy adopted by the former coach to deal with the lack of pace and stength in our midfield. |
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Rd10.1998_11.1#36
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Grundy needs to go forward and get some rex hunt back in him.
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Pies4shaw
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^ Of the top 25 players who played as knock first-ruckmen in the AFL (identified by average number of hitouts per game) in 2021, Grundy averaged more goals than any of them, except Gawn. The difference between Gawn (0.64 goals per game) and Grundy (0.6 goals per game) was trivial - and, of course, entirely accounted for by Gawn having a day-out, kicking 5, in Melbourne's complete shellacking of Geelong on preliminary final day.
In 2021, he was top 2 in the AFL amongst those leading first ruckmen on averages for hitouts (top), hitouts to advantage (2nd), goals (2nd), disposals (top), tackles (2nd). Everyone can do better - but I think we need to be realistic about our demands. |
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| stui magpie wrote: | Grundy is good at winning hitouts , sometimes he even hits them to our players.
What's needed is more coordination for him to players in position to use it dangerously |
What made him Standout that he got his own Clearance from his Taps so he might be trying to do that too much instead of doing it to our Midfield
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Dave The Man
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| Pies4shaw wrote: | ^ Of the top 25 players who played as knock first-ruckmen in the AFL (identified by average number of hitouts per game) in 2021, Grundy averaged more goals than any of them, except Gawn. The difference between Gawn (0.64 goals per game) and Grundy (0.6 goals per game) was trivial - and, of course, entirely accounted for by Gawn having a day-out, kicking 5, in Melbourne's complete shellacking of Geelong on preliminary final day.
In 2021, he was top 2 in the AFL amongst those leading first ruckmen on averages for hitouts (top), hitouts to advantage (2nd), goals (2nd), disposals (top), tackles (2nd). Everyone can do better - but I think we need to be realistic about our demands. |
With his Big Contract the Expectation by some fans is Impossible for him to live up to
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stui magpie
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| Pies4shaw wrote: | | ^ It's plainly been the coaching plan. It was a strategy adopted by the former coach to deal with the lack of pace and stength in our midfield. |
Regardless, it's a dumb plan and dropping the ball straight down to weak midfielders if you don't have outside runners ready to receive a handpass is even dumber.
A good ruck midfield combo needs to have multiple options at each contest and a ruckman capable of using them depending on the situation. It's 3D chess played out in a second.
Grundy is smart enough and talented enough but the centre bounce and stoppage stategy is clearly poor, whoever is responsible for it and needs to change
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| think positive wrote: | Wait til we get the team balance right, and he actually has someone to hit to, it’s easy to look good when those around you are not in the wrong spot or fumbling every pass.
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Well, I haven't seen his teammates fumbling his hit outs. Have you?
And some of the folks on here who make the "no one to hit to" claim (not you) are the same folks who claim JdG is the best player in the history of AFL. I mean, huh??
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Grundy looks frustrated, who can blame him? He works so $�$%^%%$ hard! |
He used to work **** hard, according to McFly.
But dunno if he still does. It's hard to work really hard when you're fixated on getting away from footy and your teammates, etc. He could work really hard on his own, but that wouldn't be getting away from footy. |
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