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watt price tully Scorpio



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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2021 4:46 pm
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5 from the wing on debut wrote:
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It must be difficult for you, because your solution to the problem is to blame Morrison's diplomacy.


This is a basic clear thinking.


An explanation is not a solution (go figure). Scotty from Hillsong stuffed up diplomatically. He contributed to China's economic punishment of Australia

Again this is not difficult.


Great, you agree that your explanation is not a solution.
I knew that you would come around in the end.
It wasn't that difficult, was it?


Really? Goodness me. If that’s what makes you float ur boat. Rolling Eyes

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Having finished the thankless work of counting all three RAN tugboats in the channel, Captain Practical steeled himself for a daring imaginary landing on an artificial beach in the South China Sea, booting over the sand castles of dirty communist children at play with a cutting "take that, maths freak!"

Bounding across an atoll of recycled sneaker soles at the tweeted behest of General Hillsong, he imaginarily invested his every Cialis-fuelled joule on disrupting north-south supply lines of jasmine pearls in defence of the New Anglo-American Century of White Tea.

"First, they dug our gold for a mere pittance with few rights to speak of, and I let them steal our dirty and dangerous jobs in silence. Then, they set up shop in our towns with their sweet and sour pork and lemon chicken, and I said nothing as my mouth was full. As they funded our crumbling tertiary edumakation system and lifted our national numeracy scores, still I said nuffing. Then, taking our dirty brown coal at inflated prices, yet I stood by fervently supporting climate deniers as my pension fund grew. But now, as the Great Yellow Peril Under the Red Bed contemptuously recycles our national emblem of pride, the rubber thong, trampling it under foot as little more than non-slip orthopaedic exercise path surfacing, I can bear it no more."

"Let us fight on the artificial beaches with the great people of Hillsong, the loyal disciples of decorated doer of indignant outraged effete, Alan Jones, and the Anti-Vaxxing BitQoinAnon Templars of the Trump Towers, to stop the recipes of our great Aussie beer, that no one else with working tastebuds worldwide dares drink, from falling into CCCCP hands, by erecting an entirely impenetrable and repelling Great VB Firewall. Thus, may we ensure those Weiboing maligners of white tea and merciless Momoing mockers of Tony Abbott's ears never insult us again by getting their hands on our true source of greatness."

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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2021 8:54 am
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Shouldn't that post be in the "LSD experiment results" topic?
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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2021 9:06 am
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^
no, ....its more like the "throwing a tantrum and beating ones fist on the floor while eating the carpet" topic.

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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2021 9:14 am
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PTID's entirely correct, of course. And very funny.
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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2021 1:43 pm
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Good article from Guy Rundle on this very topic today:

https://www.crikey.com.au/2021/05/05/no-war-china/

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The second trick is to presume that the global extension of Western empires is a “natural” condition, rather than encirclement. Mainland China has, on its doorstep, a US-funded and armed Taiwan, a pro-US Japan being encouraged to drop the neutrality provisions of its constitution, a historical ally in the Philippines, and so on. It’s as if Papua New Guinea, Indonesia and Tasmania were Chinese vassals, and we were required to say nothing about it. Such hypocrisy extends to trade treaties.

The Belt and Road is treated as war by proxy. The now-defunct Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) treaty was a far more explicit form of encirclement — in which US financial interest was sacrificed for strategic gain — yet was treated in the compliant press as a purely commercial venture.

The third element is a wider mischaracterisation of all trade moves as a form of war. That is a particularly crafty and hypocritical move, given that every Western power has built its wealth on sharp practice. China breaks copyright and IP law, against agreements it has signed; but since the agreements are iniquitous IP rents on technology, why not? It may be duplicitous, but it’s not war.

Yet it is constructed as a precursor of such.

[…]

We have to talk back to this sleazy and desperate tactic, by a cross-party, cross-politics elite who have made us economically dependent on someone they are now constructing as an identity-defining enemy.

They can’t decide whether to make chest-beating Periclean statements of principle, or whine when they won’t buy our cheese anymore. We need a plain old-fashioned anti-war movement, led by Green parties, left parties, community groups, just a simple “no” at this stage. We need to, prior and simultaneously, fight this fight in our own heads, as the powerful propaganda machine turns us, once again, towards death rather than life.

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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2021 2:27 pm
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pietillidie wrote:
Having finished the thankless work of counting all three RAN tugboats in the channel, Captain Practical steeled himself for a daring imaginary landing on an artificial beach in the South China Sea, booting over the sand castles of dirty communist children at play with a cutting "take that, maths freak!"

Bounding across an atoll of recycled sneaker soles at the tweeted behest of General Hillsong, he imaginarily invested his every Cialis-fuelled joule on disrupting north-south supply lines of jasmine pearls in defence of the New Anglo-American Century of White Tea.

"First, they dug our gold for a mere pittance with few rights to speak of, and I let them steal our dirty and dangerous jobs in silence. Then, they set up shop in our towns with their sweet and sour pork and lemon chicken, and I said nothing as my mouth was full. As they funded our crumbling tertiary edumakation system and lifted our national numeracy scores, still I said nuffing. Then, taking our dirty brown coal at inflated prices, yet I stood by fervently supporting climate deniers as my pension fund grew. But now, as the Great Yellow Peril Under the Red Bed contemptuously recycles our national emblem of pride, the rubber thong, trampling it under foot as little more than non-slip orthopaedic exercise path surfacing, I can bear it no more."

"Let us fight on the artificial beaches with the great people of Hillsong, the loyal disciples of decorated doer of indignant outraged effete, Alan Jones, and the Anti-Vaxxing BitQoinAnon Templars of the Trump Towers, to stop the recipes of our great Aussie beer, that no one else with working tastebuds worldwide dares drink, from falling into CCCCP hands, by erecting an entirely impenetrable and repelling Great VB Firewall. Thus, may we ensure those Weiboing maligners of white tea and merciless Momoing mockers of Tony Abbott's ears never insult us again by getting their hands on our true source of greatness."


Very funny 😂😂😂

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watt price tully Scorpio



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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2021 2:33 pm
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David wrote:
Good article from Guy Rundle on this very topic today:

https://www.crikey.com.au/2021/05/05/no-war-china/

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The second trick is to presume that the global extension of Western empires is a “natural” condition, rather than encirclement. Mainland China has, on its doorstep, a US-funded and armed Taiwan, a pro-US Japan being encouraged to drop the neutrality provisions of its constitution, a historical ally in the Philippines, and so on. It’s as if Papua New Guinea, Indonesia and Tasmania were Chinese vassals, and we were required to say nothing about it. Such hypocrisy extends to trade treaties.

The Belt and Road is treated as war by proxy. The now-defunct Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) treaty was a far more explicit form of encirclement — in which US financial interest was sacrificed for strategic gain — yet was treated in the compliant press as a purely commercial venture.

The third element is a wider mischaracterisation of all trade moves as a form of war. That is a particularly crafty and hypocritical move, given that every Western power has built its wealth on sharp practice. China breaks copyright and IP law, against agreements it has signed; but since the agreements are iniquitous IP rents on technology, why not? It may be duplicitous, but it’s not war.

Yet it is constructed as a precursor of such.

[…]

We have to talk back to this sleazy and desperate tactic, by a cross-party, cross-politics elite who have made us economically dependent on someone they are now constructing as an identity-defining enemy.

They can’t decide whether to make chest-beating Periclean statements of principle, or whine when they won’t buy our cheese anymore. We need a plain old-fashioned anti-war movement, led by Green parties, left parties, community groups, just a simple “no” at this stage. We need to, prior and simultaneously, fight this fight in our own heads, as the powerful propaganda machine turns us, once again, towards death rather than life.


Rundle like PTID nails it and corroborates what anyone with at least half a brain knows. It’s like Mastermind, Special Subject: the bleedin’ obvious.

This isn’t difficult.

<Following off-topic exchange deleted. Thanks, David for BBMods.>

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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2021 4:44 pm
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First they censored Fawlty Towers in the UK, now in Australia!!!!!
I am on the phone to The Daily Mail right now!
Front page story.
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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2021 4:52 pm
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Try The People's Daily, 5. Wink
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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2021 7:28 pm
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Pies4shaw wrote:
PTID's entirely correct, of course. And very funny.


In your view.

In reality...................No on both counts.

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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2021 11:13 pm
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“Bloody hell, didn’t see that one coming, says (Scotty from Hillsong) after China cuts off diplomatic ties with Australia ......”


https://www.betootaadvocate.com/advocate-in-focus/bloody-hell-didnt-see-that-one-coming-says-pm-after-china-cuts-all-diplomatic-ties-with-australia/

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stui magpie wrote:
Pies4shaw wrote:
PTID's entirely correct, of course. And very funny.


In your view.

In reality...................No on both counts.

Indeed. The real comedy here would normally be the slapstick storyline of same dim chest beaters keep making the same ill-disciplined mistakes time and again, from Iraq, climate denial, and NBN wrecking, to Abbott, tech industry dismissivenes and Trump worship — except of course the rest of us in the actual real world always end up paying for the lost time, lost opportunity and outright wreckage that follows the stooge show.

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PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2021 12:36 am
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Indeed there’s a lot of post Trump repair going on with respect to Chiynah. Biden’s working some stuff out with the EU currently after Trump abrogated his responsibilities.
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Are you serious? Biden's not working out anything. He can't remember where he left his pants. He even has trouble recognising family members. There may be discussions going on between the USA and the EU, but it's got nothing to do with Biden.
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