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bucksisgod 
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| black_bart wrote: | | nomadjack wrote: | [yep next year we'll have 2 club sides playing in the Asian Champions League .... the Socceroos will be playing in the Asian Cup finals ... and the AFL might play a made up game against Ireland if they promise not to tackle ...
no trouble at all]
Yep, and we'll still attract double or triple your average crowds week in week out, enjoy our coverage on free to air tv and radio, enjoy ten pages of coverage in the major dailies, enjoy our clubs sustainable financial security and bathe in the glory of record attendances.
Each to their own, and enjoy your soccer by all means, but don't kid yourself that it's anywhere near reaching the status of AFL in Victoria. |
yep the world revolves around victoria  |
Enjoy your soccer mate, but it will never be the number one sport in Australia. May be popular overseas, but a looong way back in the queue here. Don't hold your breath waiting for soccer to catch up in popularity to Cricket, AFL, Rugby league, Union or even motor racing in this country. |
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nomadjack
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[yep the world revolves around victoria]
In terms of AFL, and for most Collingwood supporters yeah, it does.  |
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black_bart
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| bucksisgod wrote: | | black_bart wrote: | | nomadjack wrote: | [yep next year we'll have 2 club sides playing in the Asian Champions League .... the Socceroos will be playing in the Asian Cup finals ... and the AFL might play a made up game against Ireland if they promise not to tackle ...
no trouble at all]
Yep, and we'll still attract double or triple your average crowds week in week out, enjoy our coverage on free to air tv and radio, enjoy ten pages of coverage in the major dailies, enjoy our clubs sustainable financial security and bathe in the glory of record attendances.
Each to their own, and enjoy your soccer by all means, but don't kid yourself that it's anywhere near reaching the status of AFL in Victoria. |
yep the world revolves around victoria |
Enjoy your soccer mate, but it will never be the number one sport in Australia. May be popular overseas, but a looong way back in the queue here. Don't hold your breath waiting for soccer to catch up in popularity to Cricket, AFL, Rugby league, Union or even motor racing in this country. |
*ahem*
http://www.sweeneyresearch.com.au/newsPDF/news_pdf_13.pdf.
Soccer continues to scale leadership ladder
Statement by: Sweeney Sports Director, Martin Hirons
Soccer has become one of the three most popular sports in Australia, the winter 2006 Sweeney Sports report shows. Soccer has in winter 2006 drawn almost level with Australian Rules and is equal withswimming as the sport in which most people are interested – eclipsing cricket and tennis and moving well ahead of the two rugby codes. Boosted by this year’s World Cup at which the Socceroos reached the knock-out stage of the finals in Germany, soccer has recorded its highest ever interest level.Almost six of every ten adults (56 per cent) say they are interested in the sport, compared with 57 per cent who say they are interested in Australian Rules.The result is in the eighth winter edition of the Report which has also been conducted insummer for the past 20 years. The Report, recognised as Australia’s most authoritative sports and sponsorship survey, calculates ‘interest’ by combining data about the proportions of adult Australians incapital cities who participate in, attend, watch television programs, listen to radio broadcasts, read print media reports and use the internet for information about each sport. Soccer’s previous highest level of interest in a winter survey was 50 per cent after the2002 World Cup (when the Socceroos did not reach the finals). It gradually declined to 41 per cent interest in winter 2005 before its steep increase (attributed at the time to the hiatus in the national league for more than 18 months and a lack of high profile international matches).The results for soccer, as for most major sports, are historically driven by changes in television viewing but slippages similar to those which occurred between 2002 and 2005 are not expected during the next few years because of: •The higher profile that the sport and its key players have following the World Cup •Increased enthusiasm for the national A League, as shown by strong early season match attendances •The added bonus of the Socceroos playing higher profile games •A stronger organisational structure, providing more dynamic leadership.In contrast to other football codes which have strongholds in specific cities, Soccer’s interest levels are more consistent across the capitals. |
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bucksisgod
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So it's still not the number one sport in Australia. Don't get me wrong, it's not a bad game, I let my daughter play it  . My son, well he likes games that are a little more masculine  . Is there any other sport where there is more action in the grandstands than on the field?
Statistically, Soccer sits FIFTH, above union and League, below Swimming, AFL, Cricket and Bocci 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sport_in_Australia
BB, Your link doesn't work BTW. |
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joffa corfe
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| bucksisgod wrote: | | black_bart wrote: | | nomadjack wrote: | [yep next year we'll have 2 club sides playing in the Asian Champions League .... the Socceroos will be playing in the Asian Cup finals ... and the AFL might play a made up game against Ireland if they promise not to tackle ...
no trouble at all]
Yep, and we'll still attract double or triple your average crowds week in week out, enjoy our coverage on free to air tv and radio, enjoy ten pages of coverage in the major dailies, enjoy our clubs sustainable financial security and bathe in the glory of record attendances.
Each to their own, and enjoy your soccer by all means, but don't kid yourself that it's anywhere near reaching the status of AFL in Victoria. |
yep the world revolves around victoria |
Enjoy your soccer mate, but it will never be the number one sport in Australia. May be popular overseas, but a looong way back in the queue here. Don't hold your breath waiting for soccer to catch up in popularity to Cricket, AFL, Rugby league, Union or even motor racing in this country. |
Now now tread very carefully with such comments 
Twenty years ago in melbourne if you told someone soccer will attract the crowds its attracting now you would of got your head kicked in 
To think telstra dome can attract some 40.000 soccer fans is true testament of how this game has grown and how it will continue to grow...it is an exciting game with skill and attracts the most passionate of any type of football fan.
Next week i'll post how many attended the Victory V Sydney clash....it should also be pointed out at junior level soccer is the fastest growing sport in Australia
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joffa corfe
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...and please allow myself to be brutally honest if it wasn't for collingwood the AFL could well and truly get stuffed!
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black_bart
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| bucksisgod wrote: | So it's still not the number one sport in Australia. Don't get me wrong, it's not a bad game, I let my daughter play it . My son, well he likes games that are a little more masculine . Is there any other sport where there is more action in the grandstands than on the field?
Statistically, Soccer sits FIFTH, above union and League, below Swimming, AFL, Cricket and Bocci
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sport_in_Australia
BB, Your link doesn't work BTW. |
try this
http://www.sweeneyresearch.com.au/newsPDF/news_pdf_13.pdf
and it's more current (and by the same research company) than the wikipedia one
also in regards to Melbourne Victory's imminent entry into the 2008 Asian Champion's League comes this piece from The Age ...
http://blogs.theage.com.au/ballsup/archives/2006/12/latest_lynch.html
In a commercial sense the delay could also be advantageous as it gives the club a year-long window to chat up new sponsors and develop marketing plans: no football club of any other stripe in Victoria can go to multi-national companies over the next 12 months and offer to showcase them through a competition which will be watched by billions of people in some of the fastest growing consumer areas of the world. It should be a compelling argument.
as the old rock guru used to say ... 'do yourself a favour' ... and get to Telstradome next Friday night for game against Sydney . Should be a cracker . |
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bucksisgod
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Here's some attendance figures for both codes.
Link - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sports_league_attendances
A-League Football (soccer) 7 clubs in Australia / 1 club in New Zealand
YEAR GAMES ATTENDANCE AVG
2005-06 90 1,046,459 11,627
SOURCE - ausfootballreview.com
AFL
Australian Football League (Premiership Season) Australian rules football Australia
YEAR GAMES ATTENDANCE AVG
2006 176 6,204,056 35,250
SOURCE - Australian Football League. (Note: does not include 2006 AFL Finals Series). See also Australian rules football attendance records
AFL average crowd is 3+ times the soccer average. Well on top. Not quite panic stations yet. |
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bazdaddy 
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More people are playing soccer...more people are getting softer, just a massive influence from superficial mothers worrying about their little boy being hurt, once and for all stop kidding ya selves, soccer will never take over AFL in this country.
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David 
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It will if they keep making rule changes 
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joffa corfe
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| bazdaddy wrote: | | More people are playing soccer...more people are getting softer, just a massive influence from superficial mothers worrying about their little boy being hurt, once and for all stop kidding ya selves, soccer will never take over AFL in this country. |
No one is saying that the real football will take over...what we're trying to say is now there is a real option.
Anyway the big story of the week will be how many people rock up at Telstra stadium this friday night
35.000
40.000
Not bad for a game that everyone laughed at twenty years ago
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JLC 
Joined: 30 May 2000
Location: Keysborough still representing Hot Pies
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| bucksisgod wrote: | Here's some attendance figures for both codes.
Link - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sports_league_attendances
A-League Football (soccer) 7 clubs in Australia / 1 club in New Zealand
YEAR GAMES ATTENDANCE AVG
2005-06 90 1,046,459 11,627
SOURCE - ausfootballreview.com
AFL
Australian Football League (Premiership Season) Australian rules football Australia
YEAR GAMES ATTENDANCE AVG
2006 176 6,204,056 35,250
SOURCE - Australian Football League. (Note: does not include 2006 AFL Finals Series). See also Australian rules football attendance records
AFL average crowd is 3+ times the soccer average. Well on top. Not quite panic stations yet. |
True it may not be time to panic as afterall we have Andy D in charge of the AFL so there is nothing to worry about
However the A League can make big inroads into the Sydney and Brisbane markets and that will hurt the A League. It wasnt so long ago that the Lions were averaging under 10,000 in their first few years and the Swans crowds were also pretty poor.
As for Sponsorships when the Victory play in the Asians Champions League then sponsors will be getting global exposure which is something they wont get from sponsoring StKilda and Kangaroos etc.
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member34258
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Soccer have repositioned itself in Australia the only way it could, as a Summer sport. When they tried to go head to head with the AFL and NRL they were soundly beaten.
As a summer sport they will suffer from smaller crowds. Plenty of things to do in the summer time after all, but they do offer an alternative for footy starved fans.
Good luck to them. |
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Piethagoras' Theorem 
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One thing soccer offers that the afl can only dream of is a one city one team competition without the compromised uneven draw.
Considering where it was a year or two ago soccer has really come on at an alarming rate and with Victorian afl clubs continually losing ground to interstate clubs it's quite possible people will lose interest.
I've no doubt that a final played at the 'G' hosting Melbourne would easily draw a 60000+ crowd
You only have to look at schools to see how popular it is with the kids. Make no mistake the afl might be no. 1 at the moment but to ignore the threat of losing kids to soccer would be to its own detriment. That is where the real threat is!
A friend of mine (keen pies supporter I go to footy with) has a 6 yr old boy who attended both auskick and the soccer equivalent and he believes the soccer one is a much better organised and professional setup. Perhaps the afl are complacent, who knows?
Another incentive for the kids is the opportunity to represent their country which the afl are light years away from doing.(properly that is)
The afl may be winning the battle now but lets have a look in 10 years time when we see the effect of the countries best young athletes having a genuine alternative sport to chose from
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