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thompsoc 



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 12:16 pm
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But INXs88 people power voted in Tony Rabbit as PM!!!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 2:49 pm
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So point of thread is if Bucks gets sacked due to poor kicking players, I wonder who recruited all the said poor kicks?

Hine tends to escape criticism on this front imo.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 3:15 pm
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loki04 wrote:
So point of thread is if Bucks gets sacked due to poor kicking players, I wonder who recruited all the said poor kicks?

Hine tends to escape criticism on this front imo.


Think Clarko was aligned with Chris Pelchen and Gary Buckenara in the mid 2000's with his edict about "what type of player" he sees as a part of his coaching vision. All coaches lay down their imprimatur in this area. Some even do it too much:

eg. Mark Neeld to Todd Viney 2012 Draft Night: "you are not picking Wines at all Todd!! You are picking Toumpas".

Additionally, if a coach keeps recidivists of poor disposal in the team without fear or consequence, it doesn't create an accountability to standards. But hey, we were never going to turn James Manson in 1987 into Darren Jarman, but he did end up being an effective kick and contributor to our 1990 Flag win and not a Levis Casboult ancestor!!

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 3:54 pm
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inxs88 wrote:
loki04 wrote:
So point of thread is if Bucks gets sacked due to poor kicking players, I wonder who recruited all the said poor kicks?

Hine tends to escape criticism on this front imo.


Think Clarko was aligned with Chris Pelchen and Gary Buckenara in the mid 2000's with his edict about "what type of player" he sees as a part of his coaching vision. All coaches lay down their imprimatur in this area. Some even do it too much:

eg. Mark Neeld to Todd Viney 2012 Draft Night: "you are not picking Wines at all Todd!! You are picking Toumpas".

Additionally, if a coach keeps recidivists of poor disposal in the team without fear or consequence, it doesn't create an accountability to standards. But hey, we were never going to turn James Manson in 1987 into Darren Jarman, but he did end up being an effective kick and contributor to our 1990 Flag win and not a Levis Casboult ancestor!!


Hawks made a statement that if you can't kick we will not recruit you.

They have stayed largely true to that with the odd exception.

We seem to go the opposite route with Hine.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 5:46 pm
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John Wren wrote:
some footballers are vain enough to only kick where they will get a 100% efficiency result.


Not sure if your kidding.....that's not vanity, surely that's picking the right option?

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Collingwood Crackerjack wrote:
John Wren wrote:
some footballers are vain enough to only kick where they will get a 100% efficiency result.


Not sure if your kidding.....that's not vanity, surely that's picking the right option?
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some players like to retain 100% efficiency and carry as a badge of honour.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 8:39 pm
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loki04 wrote:
So point of thread is if Bucks gets sacked due to poor kicking players, I wonder who recruited all the said poor kicks?

Hine tends to escape criticism on this front imo.

I have talked about Hine for the last few years
And what have I got from fellow Nicksters ????
Mainly abuse because I have questioned his ability.
i thought he has recruited well in the last 2 years but I will wait and see how his picks go in 2016.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 11:17 pm
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John Wren wrote:
inxs88 wrote:
That Frost stats proves that the smaller the sample size of total possessions per match (avg 7) the easier it is to get to 87%.


20 games is a reasonable sample size.


Thank god the sample size has lead to Frost's omission this week.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:24 am
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Excited by the inclusions of:

Howe
Goldsack
Maynard

From a kicking perspective. Goodyear deserves his elevation but to all fans "beware of the helicopter kick" from Goody today!

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