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fractal 



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 8:59 am
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I guess this is always going to happen with a team that is tasting success. We really can't expect to keep the whole team together through this period, especially considering how young our guns still are. Just thankful so far we haven't lost any of our A Graders.

it would be a loss, but it wouldn't surprise me if he stays.

Anyone remember a certain Mr Cloke senior making similar noises last year?

And cmon, where else will get a 'toooooooooooooooooves' cult following ..
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:03 am
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Think the team needs to become as Geelong (excepting Ablett). All players should be focused on Premierships, it is why you play Football FFS.

The dangling money carrot has destroyed that concept in the game.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:49 am
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Would be very surprised if he left. He should know that this team allows him to play his best football. He has so much quality support around him is it worthwhile throwing all that away for "a few dollars more"?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:06 am
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I would've thought Tooves would be the least likely guy to be making demands like the one's his manager is making.

I'll believe he's going for money when it's out of his mouth, not his parasitic manager.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:11 am
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Everyone bagging the manager and that's fair enough.

But if it were me and my manager behaved like that he wouldn't be my manager any more.

Unless of course I instructed him or was at least OK with the strategy.

Seems to me that Toovey has made a decision. That's his choice and that's fair enough. We don't have to like it though.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:13 am
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Monco Matt wrote:
Would be very surprised if he left. He should know that this team allows him to play his best football. He has so much quality support around him is it worthwhile throwing all that away for "a few dollars more"?


I suppose you have to get paid "any which way you can" but his manager is trying to be "the enforcer" which has put Alan "in the line of fire" Cool
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:20 am
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I'll happily wait and see what happens, I'm not going to bag anyone until the results are on the table.

It's interesting timing, the day after we redraft someone who played a similar role.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:53 am
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5150 wrote:
Monco Matt wrote:
Would be very surprised if he left. He should know that this team allows him to play his best football. He has so much quality support around him is it worthwhile throwing all that away for "a few dollars more"?


I suppose you have to get paid "any which way you can" but his manager is trying to be "the enforcer" which has put Alan "in the line of fire" Cool


Well played, Sir! Well played, indeed.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:55 am
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Surely we have to look at the picture,
ask yourself,do we give brad dick another go,or let toovey walk.
Do we hold onto j mcarthy and let toovey walk,

I say we keep toovey the other 2,well sorry toovey has done alot more and deserves the spot,

Brad dick is one of my favourites,but is injury proned,j mac well,your just a little bit of depth.
The backline needs toovey

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:00 am
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^ When you throw Goldsack into the equation though, does losing Toovey really seem like a major deal.

As I said above, Toovey can play great but then can spud it up massively. Inconsistency is my major issue with him.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:09 am
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With Goldsack and Clarke we are more than well positioned to cover the loss of Toovey if it happens. Not worried at all regarding the impact to our side. Dawes re-signing is far more crucial, glad to hear that happened today.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:28 am
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Deja Vu wrote:
Everyone bagging the manager and that's fair enough.

But if it were me and my manager behaved like that he wouldn't be my manager any more.

Exactly! He could of easily told his manager to STFU.

All the players need to take less than market rates to keep the team together and compete for more flags. It seems Tooves isn't happy with this approach, and although I am sorry to see him go (better bp than goldy and marty, imo), he can phuck off right now.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:20 pm
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He's entitled to get the best deal for himself and his manager is paid to do just that. Pert knows that. At the end of the day, he either comes to a deal at Collingwood or he pursues a deal somewhere else. It's his livelihood after all.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:27 pm
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Disgraceful tactics from the manager - this has the potential to turn the supporters against a much loved player. Also, as stated by others, I can't imagine a manager going ahead with this sort of thing without the player's approval. Mad

So, out of the GF side - A.Toovey, In - T.Goldsack....... & by Rd 15 next year when he doesn't have superstars all around him to make him look good, Toovey will be playing 2's wherever he ends up. Evil or Very Mad

All for a few dollars........ Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:37 pm
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Monco Matt wrote:
5150 wrote:
Monco Matt wrote:
Would be very surprised if he left. He should know that this team allows him to play his best football. He has so much quality support around him is it worthwhile throwing all that away for "a few dollars more"?


I suppose you have to get paid "any which way you can" but his manager is trying to be "the enforcer" which has put Alan "in the line of fire" 8)


Well played, Sir! Well played, indeed.


It would "make my day" if Tooves comes out and says he's staying a Pie.

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