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Big T
Joined: 18 Oct 2003
Location: Torino, Italy
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Even Eddiesmith can't defend him. So lazy and useless. Sadly white is just as bad lately.
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Stupied
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Not much that can be done about it besides hope he turns it around. Not like we have anyone to replace him with at the moment.  |
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Big T
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| Stupied wrote: | | Not much that can be done about it besides hope he turns it around. Not like we have anyone to replace him with at the moment. |
Agree. Bet he comes good once Reid returns... We need to get Karnezis in. Possibles for Witts or White.
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Bob Sugar
Joined: 11 Feb 2010
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He looks injured to me, I know he's never been overly quick but he looked slow tonight.
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Big T
Joined: 18 Oct 2003
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| Defender wrote: | | He looks injured to me, I know he's never been overly quick but he looked slow tonight. |
We roll that line out most years
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WarrenerraW
Joined: 18 Apr 2008
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| Cloke needs to be given the benefit of the doubt. The delivery to him is nothing less than pathetic so lets cut him some slack. What sort of chance has he got when the ball is kicked over his head, to his feet, to his left and to his right. This team needs to lift its game and start using the ball better to give him the opportunity to actually take marks. How can he when we don't give him the chance? |
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WarrenerraW
Joined: 18 Apr 2008
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| And it's always the same culprits time and time again serving up the same sloppy disposals. |
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AN_Inkling
Joined: 06 Oct 2007
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The forward line gets a complete pass today, for mine. The ball barely went forward and when it did it was scrappy. The talls had zero chance all day. Cloke's out of touch, but even in form he would not have done much today. Karnezis would not have made any difference either.
Also, I'd like to point this out: Kennedy had a worse game than Cloke. With the inside 50s they had and far more free ball movement, he should have been the match winner. He had a shocker: 6 touches and 1 goal.
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slangman
Joined: 11 Aug 2003
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| WarrenerraW wrote: | | Cloke needs to be given the benefit of the doubt. The delivery to him is nothing less than pathetic so lets cut him some slack. What sort of chance has he got when the ball is kicked over his head, to his feet, to his left and to his right. This team needs to lift its game and start using the ball better to give him the opportunity to actually take marks. How can he when we don't give him the chance? |
Agree
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eddiesmith 
Lets get ready to Rumble
Joined: 22 Nov 2004
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| Kicked the most important goal of the day so you can all go and get £$%$ed |
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Big T
Joined: 18 Oct 2003
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| eddiesmith wrote: | | Kicked the most important goal of the day so you can all go and get £$%$ed |
There it is, weeded it out of him. Dummy's everywhere.
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Bob Sugar
Joined: 11 Feb 2010
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Just watched today's replay and looked for Cloke at every opportunity, he's nowhere near fit, he's getting no elevation in his jumps and I'd put money on my 40 year old beer guzzling ass to beat him in a foot race, semi educated guess is he has a dose of OP, symptoms match up, loss of explosive power etc, that's why he can't get any separation on the lead and trying to out muscle a KB with limited bottom end power is next to impossible, and changing direction at pace to make an average kick good is much harder as well.
rest doesn't help apparently, but damn, we can't keep playing him IMO, reckon we just have pretend he isn't available until he's right.
Write off us flagging up this year without him at his best. 
I take back all the negative stuff I said about him in this thread, a lesser man wouldn't be on the field.
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Clifton Hill-Billy
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We have nobody else, but the way Cloke is playing is like effectively playing nobody as FF..... an expensive nobody at that.
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Mugwump
Joined: 28 Jul 2007
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| Defender wrote: | Just watched today's replay and looked for Cloke at every opportunity, he's nowhere near fit, he's getting no elevation in his jumps and I'd put money on my 40 year old beer guzzling ass to beat him in a foot race, semi educated guess is he has a dose of OP, symptoms match up, loss of explosive power etc, that's why he can't get any separation on the lead and trying to out muscle a KB with limited bottom end power is next to impossible, and changing direction at pace to make an average kick good is much harder as well.
rest doesn't help apparently, but damn, we can't keep playing him IMO, reckon we just have pretend he isn't available until he's right.
Write off us flagging up this year without him at his best.
I take back all the negative stuff I said about him in this thread, a lesser man wouldn't be on the field. |
Doubt it, if he had OP then i don't think Bucks would have confidently predicted this week that he'd tear a game apart soon. And he was oretty good against Carlton, from memory. I think it's a form thing. His kicking shows he's a confidence player, and that is probably transferring to his general play just now. But I truly wonder whether the days of big beast Full forwards are really past. A mid-tall with strong mobility (or a short tall in Elliott's case) probably offers more in the fast ebb-and-flow of the modern game. Pity about that 5-year contract, if so.
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delcorp
Joined: 03 Oct 2005
Location: Melbourne
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Play Travis the backline for a while. If he is not kicking for goal. Great mark. when he doesnt think kicking is good as well. Could be our best CHB.
Please play him there.
If Reid returns you then have him up forward with either White of PK.
White was relly good in ruck in the last 15. Should spend more time around the ground. |
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