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Mugwump
Joined: 28 Jul 2007
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Funny thing, we didn't get trashed and yet we were so mind numbing.y awful to watch! Watching the tiggas drop marks and still keep possession, kick me, why are those loose balls not dived on? He has lost the players. They have no idea how to compute what's in his brain |
If he has lost the players who do not know what is in his brain, how did they know vs Geelong, vs GWS, Vs West Coast ? Same players, same coach ... I just don't think it makes any sense to assume he has lost the players and cannot communicate expectations or plans, and that this changes from week to week.
I think the truth is that the team we had to put on the park last night was just not up to it. Cox is a liability in terms of defence in the forward 50, Crocker not quite the standard, Blair probably injured (whatever his deficiencies he usually gets a lot more involved than that)... and Cloke is done. We put very little pressure on them coming out of our F50 and so they were free to put pressure on our defence, making even good players like Reid look loose and disorganised. Is that Buckley's fault ? Well, in one sense yes as the buck stops with the coach - but last night looked like we were trying make mortar with over-watered cement because that is all that's in the truck right now. Elliott, Fas, Moore Sinclair and Scharenberg and Ramsay and growth in Degoey Wills and Aish are all going to be necessary. Fortunately these all look pretty possible.
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neil 
Joined: 08 Sep 2005
Location: Queensland
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Explain why Fasolo Elliot and Broomhead are missing and you have your answer
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Yeah let's use the injury excuse for another year, 6 straight now. What ever happened with the big commission into the injuries?
Maybe it's training/playing style that's doing it?
For me those big wins make it worse, we know the team is capable of winning, of being top eight, and then we dish up that shit last night. No I won't use the outs as an excuse. If Blair was not ready, why was he out there? We should have won that game by 6 goals. How many pathetic misses were there? How many chose to hand pass, or just pass off because they didn't have the confidence to have a crack? What's with all the hand passing from free kicks? In their forward area, with players bearing down? Why not smash it down the field, like brown did once to add a bright moment to a crap night?
I had a conversation with a nickster at half time, we both agree it's like no one will speak up and say 'this isn't working". When Eddie came out in the media and said it, the next week the style changed enough for us to win. And then back to the same old same old. It's a pigheaded attitude that plan A will work, I don't need a plan B. I have faith in the list, the team, the guys out there last night were good enough to get the job done, and yet for too many periods, looked like headless chooks, tackling players after the ball was long gone. Yes we need to say goodbye to a couple of old times, but none of them were out there last night. Maybe Blair, maybe Brown. Cloke needs a new coach.
Don't tell me they have no skills, I've seen them, but they get lost in the quagmire that is this game plan. MAN UP! Eddie, I'm looking at you.
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What'sinaname
Joined: 29 May 2010
Location: Living rent free
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| think positive wrote: | Yeah let's use the injury excuse for another year, 6 straight now. What ever happened with the big commission into the injuries?
Maybe it's training/playing style that's doing it? |
it sure is, yet everyone seems to be missing the obvious. Our gameplay is to throw ourselves at the player like missile to tackle the shit out of the opposition. No wonder we're injury prone.
We need to play a slick, skilful game that doesn't rely on using players as battering rams.
Our coach is a numpty. |
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Pies4shaw 
pies4shaw
Joined: 08 Oct 2007
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| What'sinaname wrote: | | think positive wrote: | Yeah let's use the injury excuse for another year, 6 straight now. What ever happened with the big commission into the injuries?
Maybe it's training/playing style that's doing it? |
it sure is, yet everyone seems to be missing the obvious. Our gameplay is to throw ourselves at the player like missile to tackle the shit out of the opposition. No wonder we're injury prone.
We need to play a slick, skilful game that doesn't rely on using players as battering rams.
Our coach is a numpty. |
I have wondered (and may have posted last night - I can't remember whether I hit "submit") whether the up and down performances might not occur at least in part because that ferocious tackling game can't be played two weeks in a row by enough of these players at this stage of their development? |
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RudeBoy
Joined: 28 Nov 2005
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| Mugwump wrote: | | think positive wrote: |
Funny thing, we didn't get trashed and yet we were so mind numbing.y awful to watch! Watching the tiggas drop marks and still keep possession, kick me, why are those loose balls not dived on? He has lost the players. They have no idea how to compute what's in his brain |
If he has lost the players who do not know what is in his brain, how did they know vs Geelong, vs GWS, Vs West Coast ? Same players, same coach ... I just don't think it makes any sense to assume he has lost the players and cannot communicate expectations or plans, and that this changes from week to week.
I think the truth is that the team we had to put on the park last night was just not up to it. Cox is a liability in terms of defence in the forward 50, Crocker not quite the standard, Blair probably injured (whatever his deficiencies he usually gets a lot more involved than that)... and Cloke is done. We put very little pressure on them coming out of our F50 and so they were free to put pressure on our defence, making even good players like Reid look loose and disorganised. Is that Buckley's fault ? Well, in one sense yes as the buck stops with the coach - but last night looked like we were trying make mortar with over-watered cement because that is all that's in the truck right now. Elliott, Fas, Moore Sinclair and Scharenberg and Ramsay and growth in Degoey Wills and Aish are all going to be necessary. Fortunately these all look pretty possible. |
Top post Mugwump. I reckon we had half a dozen players last night who are simply not good enough, and who will most likely not be in our best 22 (or even at the club) next year. These include:
Cloke
Brown
Cox
Crocker
Blair
Williams
Of those, only Cox has a possible future with us, but only if he significantly improves over the pre-season. |
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inxs88
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Blair had NO kicks!
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Pies4shaw
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| No clangers, though. Be fair. Blair has entirely eliminated kicking inefficiency from his game. |
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inxs88
Joined: 17 Aug 2014
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| Pies4shaw wrote: | | No clangers, though. Be fair. Blair has entirely eliminated kicking inefficiency from his game. |
he is that green number on a roulette wheel!
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MatthewBoydFanClub
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: Elwood
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| I'm not Blair's greatest fan, but unless you are are a tall marking forward, the half forward flank is the graveyard position on the ground. Delivery into the forward line wasn't exactly great last night, so I'm wondering what people expected of Blair. But then again we lost last night so let's blame a few scapegoats to blame for the loss. Depends whether you want to blame Buckley for the loss or Blair for the loss. Take your pick. |
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Pies4shaw
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| I don't think one has to see it as a dichotomy. |
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Big T
Joined: 18 Oct 2003
Location: Torino, Italy
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He's as useful as an asshole with tastebuds
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What'sinaname
Joined: 29 May 2010
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| Big T wrote: | | He's as useful as an asshole with tastebuds |
You win. |
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inxs88
Joined: 17 Aug 2014
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| Pies4shaw wrote: | | I don't think one has to see it as a dichotomy. |
I like it given the post was "Blair had no kicks" 
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inxs88
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| BucksIsFutureCoach wrote: | | I'm not Blair's greatest fan, but unless you are are a tall marking forward, the half forward flank is the graveyard position on the ground. Delivery into the forward line wasn't exactly great last night, so I'm wondering what people expected of Blair. But then again we lost last night so let's blame a few scapegoats to blame for the loss. Depends whether you want to blame Buckley for the loss or Blair for the loss. Take your pick. |
HEY I HAVE AN IDEA JARRYD "HOW ABOUT FRONT AND CENTRE" WHEN THE BALL SPILLS!
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