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Flashman 



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 7:17 pm
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From memory we went with Ramsay on what would have been the Stewart pick.

One's a 6ft back pocket the others a 6ft 6 forward.

Hmmm... I don't know if Hine thought that one through too well.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 7:26 pm
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Hine did not rate him
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 7:27 pm
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From memory we went with Ramsay on what would have been the Stewart pick.

One's a 6ft back pocket the others a 6ft 6 forward.

Hmmm... I don't know if Hine thought that one through too well.


that draft we snared grundy, kennedy and broomhead. gws took stewart with pick 27, ramsay was next taken with pick 38.

would stewart really gave been ahead of the first three picked?

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 7:31 pm
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Given Stewart went pick 27. Under what scenario could we have secured Stewart and our SA trio.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 7:33 pm
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Dave The Man wrote:
Hine did not rate him


Hine did rate him. He just didn't have a draft pick worthy of a bid.

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Hine on electing not to sign James Stewart under the Father-Son rule
“It was obviously a very difficult decision for the football club to make. The circumstances presented with both Sharrod indicating a move to West Coast or others and also the Chris Dawes situation, we had no certainty in the picks that we were going to have. So we’d envisage that some earlier draft selections would come in for both Chris and Sharrod which would mean that we would be out of the draft a lot earlier than what we would have had James ranked. Unfortunately…we had no certainty of where we were going to be in the draft so we had to make a decision in the best interests of the football club.

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So the Dawes and Wellingham Trades cost us Stewart?

Though I am very happy with Grundy and Broomhead Very Happy

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I think. Or hope, on what we've seen, that we'd have selected Stewart ahead of Ramsay. That's what would have been needed after all was done. GWS bid with 27, we take Stewart with our next pick at 38.

However, as Hine said, we had a lot of uncertainty about our picks in that draft as we were active at the trade table. Would we have pick 38? We just didn't know. If we'd committed to Stewart would one of our deals have fallen through? Would we have been forced to take Stewart ahead of Broomhead, Grundy or Kennedy? I think there was just too much risk involved.

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Sniparoo:

So the Dawes and Wellingham Trades cost us Stewart?

Though I am very happy with Grundy and Broomhead Very Happy


I'm with you Dave, Grundy and Broomhead are far better long term prospects, both quality players, and both easily 200+ game players, barring the unforseen.

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The Boy Who Cried Wolf wrote:
Dave The Man wrote:


Sniparoo:

So the Dawes and Wellingham Trades cost us Stewart?

Though I am very happy with Grundy and Broomhead Very Happy


I'm with you Dave, Grundy and Broomhead are far better long term prospects, both quality players, and both easily 200+ game players, barring the unforseen.


and Kennedy also looks the Goods, Just has not had a Chance at AFL Level yet.

So we did quite well from that Draft so Can’t Complain too much

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The Boy Who Cried Wolf wrote:
Dave The Man wrote:


Sniparoo:

So the Dawes and Wellingham Trades cost us Stewart?

Though I am very happy with Grundy and Broomhead Very Happy


I'm with you Dave, Grundy and Broomhead are far better long term prospects, both quality players, and both easily 200+ game players, barring the unforseen.


How can Grundy and Broomhead be "far better long term prospects" than Stewart? On what measure?

All 3 are great prospects but it's just a flight of fancy to suggest 1 is better than the other, let alone far better, this early in their careers.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:05 pm
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Dave The Man wrote:
So the Dawes and Wellingham Trades cost us Stewart?


I guess in a way, though, I would say the AFL's stupidity in changing the F/S rule to a bidding system did. Just a very stupid idea, imo.

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jackcass wrote:
The Boy Who Cried Wolf wrote:
Dave The Man wrote:


Sniparoo:

So the Dawes and Wellingham Trades cost us Stewart?

Though I am very happy with Grundy and Broomhead Very Happy


I'm with you Dave, Grundy and Broomhead are far better long term prospects, both quality players, and both easily 200+ game players, barring the unforseen.


How can Grundy and Broomhead be "far better long term prospects" than Stewart? On what measure?

All 3 are great prospects but it's just a flight of fancy to suggest 1 is better than the other, let alone far better, this early in their careers.


I accepted the Stewart part, referring just to Dawes and Wellingham trades vs Grundy and Broomhead.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:16 pm
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In that case, I agree. Grundy and Broomhead are far better long term prospects than Wellingham and Dawes.
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Everyone needs to take a big deep breath... He has played one good game. Far too early to makes big calls on anyone Stewart or our players. Won't be able to call the winners or loser from this draft for five years. Till then it is all just opinion.
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derkd wrote:
Everyone needs to take a big deep breath... He has played one good game. Far too early to makes big calls on anyone Stewart or our players. Won't be able to call the winners or loser from this draft for five years. Till then it is all just opinion.


Well we got 3 1st Rounders instead of 1 if we had Nominated Stewart

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