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Dave The Man Scorpio



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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 7:10 pm
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Fire Up wrote:
all players will get injured, its a contact sport.

anyone see ablett's "chicken wing" tackle on the weekend?


Ablett can’t do anything wrong

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Mossi Leo



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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 7:17 pm
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Very Happy on the 6th of March 2014 AFL footy died! 8th March 2014 it resurrected itself from the dead!! pffew!
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 7:27 pm
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Sense prevails
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 8:45 pm
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First time in a long time a Melbourne player has been in the news for doing something deemed too rugged on a footy field.

That said I'm glad the kid got off. He looks a very likely type and hard at the ball but there was nothing deliberate or malicious in what he did. Purely an accidental, unavoidable collision.
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 9:37 pm
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MagpieBat wrote:
So, guess the Rest in Peace bit can be discarded...

......


Laughing Laughing

I was that mad I was prepared to rip up (someone else's) footy club membership.

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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 2:59 pm
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Glad he got off, it was a situation of a split second decision where it has happening at full pace and there was no other option for him unless he wanted to become a laughing stock of the AFL for chickening out
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 4:17 pm
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Oh, thank God for that. Common sense prevails again (I hope the AFL are starting to get a taste for it... feels good man).
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King Monkey 



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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 11:01 pm
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Now, if what Roughead did tonight in the Sydney v Hawthorn game is deemed worthy of suspension, it effectively says - when competing for the ball on the ground you must lead with the head, if you lead with the shoulder and make contact to the opponent's head; gooorn.

There has to be some onus on players to look after themselves where contact is inevitable, in this case McGlynn opened himself right up instead of staying side-on; ie it was his fault he got cleaned up.

A generation of players are being groomed to lead with the head instead of protecting themselves when competing for the ball.

Watch the number if head clashes increase if you aren't allowed to do what Roughead did.

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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 11:16 pm
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King Monkey wrote:
Now, if what Roughead did tonight in the Sydney v Hawthorn game is deemed worthy of suspension, it effectively says - when competing for the ball on the ground you must lead with the head, if you lead with the shoulder and make contact to the opponent's head; gooorn.

There has to be some onus on players to look after themselves where contact is inevitable, in this case McGlynn opened himself right up instead of staying side-on; ie it was his fault he got cleaned up.

A generation of players are being groomed to lead with the head instead of protecting themselves when competing for the ball.

Watch the number if head clashes increase if you aren't allowed to do what Roughead did.


The AFL have completely stuffed this up. By all means, rub out a player who lines someone up. But players are getting cited for going for the ball, and making accidental contact.

Its just wrong.

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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2014 8:28 am
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Roughhead has eyes on man and clearly decides to bump rather than take or attempt to take possession of the ball.

You decide to bump you collect head(looks like it though hard to know) your in trouble.
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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2014 8:41 am
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Ah bugger, I'm guessing hoping for 6 weeks is a bit much! But if he gets 4 he will lack match practice against us, 2 and he can hit someone else!
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watt price tully Scorpio



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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2014 8:59 pm
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Thank you Greg Baum. If only I could write like this:

The Bump was out of time (Fairfax 10/05/14)

.....What Viney did was courageous. The game's tradition honours it. The tribunal transcript formalises it as fact. The point is that it is not whether he could have gotten out of Lynch's way, but that he would not have, even if he could. If he had, the football discourse this week would have had a very different flavour. Bump or brace is one thing, brace or sidestep quite another. In the game's macho culture, a sidestep is tantamount to a backward step.......


http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/viney-bump-was-out-of-time-20140509-zr7gd.html

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King Monkey 



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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2014 3:48 pm
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Shit article that at the end of the day didn't really have much to say.
Other than - "Look at me I'm Greg Baum, and I'm going to condescendingly have a swipe at those that genuinely have the fabric of the game at heart. And I'm going to use completely hysterical and irrelevant analogies. And I'm going to try and make out that everybody who is disturbed with the game's changing face, is one of those 'the bump is dead' bogans."

Put those "quality" writing skills to better use Mr Baum.

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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2014 3:51 pm
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There is but one thing that needs to be done to fix this mess, and at the same time it will reduce the number of players being escorted off the ground due to head-high contact.
Put the onus back on the player to protect themselves when competing for the ball. It is a dying art in an attempt to attract the superior athlete to the game from places that haven't grown up learning the games' intricate movements and timing.

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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2014 10:42 pm
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Another excellent article by Greg Baum putting the histrionic reactions in the last week or so over the so called death then resurrection of the bump into more considered terms:

"Last week, the bump had a near-death experience. Now its vital signs are being monitored again as six players digest the match review panel's verdicts on their bumps. Expect more wailing and gnashing of broken teeth.
But what is being mourned, exactly? The bump was never intended to be the near-lethal weapon it has become. In instruction manuals going way back when, it was taught as a shoulder-to-shoulder, hip-to-hip skill. It still is. ''Make contact with the shoulder and upper arm,'' says a contemporary handbook, ''preferably when an opponent is settled on one foot, so he is easier to unbalance.''........"


http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/bumps-life-passes-before-its-eyes-20140512-zrabx.html

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