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Piesnchess
piesnchess
Joined: 09 Jun 2008
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Post subject: Play more kids,get SOMETHING out of season ?? | |
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Well, stating the bleeding obvious, we aint going to the big dance this season, and i sincerely doubt we can make the finals. Actually, making the 8 is far harder than i thought it would be, despite our poor form. The way i see it, eagles, crows, swans will be top three, then North, then hawks, cats, Giants, with one spot left for the Tigers, whom i presume must get cracking soon, or the Suns. So, on that basis, what do we use this season for, do we try to win as many games as we can, by persisting with older players, some nearly cooked, like white, blair, tooves, goldsack, or do we go for an total injection of youth, with an eye to next season and beyond. ?
This is a real conundrum for Bucks, on thin ice, does he play older guys for a few more wins, or go for more kids for long term future benefit, but puts himself under more pressure ? I dont watch that much VFL, but i did two weeks ago, and i was very impressed with youngsters like Crocker, Whyatt, and young Smith, and of course, the huge Yank Cox. This kid Sier looks the real goods too, or is it far too early to give him a gig ?
So, how best to use and utilise the rest of this season, onfield, for the best future of the club. ? And please, no smartass sack Bucks stuff, we have enough of that around, im talking about player potential and blooding more kids now.
Thoughts ? _________________ Poverty exists not because we cannot feed the poor, but because we cannot satisfy the rich.
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duke750
Joined: 11 Nov 2005 Location: Buderim QLD
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Sad, but I think this year is already a development year.
Perhaps time to develop young players, get game time into Cox, Wills etc, and see if Bucks can build some momentum towards 2017.
At some point soon we will need to accept that 2016 was not a great year _________________ Magpies forever.
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Lazza
Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Location: Bendigo, Victoria, Australia
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duke750 wrote: | Sad, but I think this year is already a development year.
Perhaps time to develop young players, get game time into Cox, Wills etc, and see if Bucks can build some momentum towards 2017.
At some point soon we will need to accept that 2016 was not a great year |
Maybe I was the only poster who stated pre season that we would peak as a team in 2017 onwards. Still far too inexperienced and the new recruits need far more time to gel into the team environment at Collingwood. Things WILL turn around but we need that critical word hated by most posters here, patience. _________________ Don't confuse your current path with your final destination. Just because it's dark and stormy now doesn't meant that you aren't headed for glorious sunshine! |
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John Wren
"Look after the game. It means so much to so many."
Joined: 15 Jul 2007
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we were never going to the big dance this year. making the eight was and is always going to be a challenge in a season where it was anticipated to be the closest yet.
we are only 4 weeks in. suggesting to play the kids is an overreaction right now. if come midseason we are still travelling poorly then you might consider it. there is no need to blood kids at the expense of trying to win games. _________________ Purveyor of sanctimonious twaddle. |
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didick
didick
Joined: 17 Jun 2009 Location: Brisbane
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I don't think we can load up the team with mostly kids. We need a good mix of experience to lead the way. Having a heap of youngins with little experience will lead to a lot of demoralising losses and could do more harm than good. We need to settle on a core team that is a good mix, with the younger players being those showing the most promise, with a sprinkle of some others now and again that may have potential. We need to get settled for a change. _________________ "The night is a very dark time for me" Chaz Michael Michaels |
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Woods Of Ypres
Joined: 27 May 2003 Location: Yugoslavia
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you have changed your tune, Piesnchess !! |
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HAL
Please don't shout at me - I can't help it.
Joined: 17 Mar 2003
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Only temporarily. |
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yin-YANG
Joined: 03 Oct 2011
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Kids need some guidance and don't learn much from getting smashed week after week. So no to a sweeping changes however we need to blood our youngsters into the team. Give em some experience - give the supporters some hope - you never know a couple might actually help out short term like Langdon who just stepped up when given a go.
We have some talented kids on the list - I would like to see Broomhead given a go up forward before we go for the total newbies though… _________________ Love us or Hate us... we are Collingwood - you can't ignore the Mighty Magpies!!! |
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jackcass
Joined: 01 Mar 2005 Location: Bendigo
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Play the kids when their VFL form demands it and an there's a spot in the senior team. If we're not in contention for finals round 17-18 then start looking at some senior players ducking off for end of season surgeries and that by default allows kids opportunities.
As it stands at the moment and barring injuries, only Wills and Smith look like pushing for senior selection any time earlier anyway. |
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Piesnchess
piesnchess
Joined: 09 Jun 2008
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Woods Of Ypres wrote: | you have changed your tune, Piesnchess !! |
Huh ?, like many around here, i did think wed make the 8 for sure, i dont deny that, but things have not panned out how i,and others, thought it wouild, such as a belting by swans, the drugs fiasco thing, swan out for season, loss of confidence etc, dont forget, many critics had us in the finals too. _________________ Poverty exists not because we cannot feed the poor, but because we cannot satisfy the rich.
Chess and Vodka are born brothers. - Russian proverb. |
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ANNODAM
Rebel Heart Tour - The Forum, Los Angeles 27/10/2015.
Joined: 02 Jul 2007 Location: Eltham, VIC.
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Woods Of Ypres wrote: | you have changed your tune, Piesnchess !! |
Didn't he start thread saying we could actually win the flag this year or have I mistaken him for another poster?
One of the funniest threads I read on here recently actually, I spat my lunch out on my pic screen... _________________ WE WERE ROBBED, RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME, RIGHT IN FRONT OF MEEE!
N.Y METS, N.Y GIANTS, PENRITH PANTHERS & HOBART HURRICANES FAN.
WE ALL LOOK GOOD AT TRAINING, IT'S THE MATCHES THAT COUNT! |
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mattys123
Joined: 06 Jul 2009 Location: Narre Warren, VIC
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Play (and select) to win until we are mathematically out of the finals I say.
No one gets games unless they deserve them, that should be our approach, regardless of age, experience or potential. |
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Lazza
Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Location: Bendigo, Victoria, Australia
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mattys123 wrote: | Play (and select) to win until we are mathematically out of the finals I say.
No one gets games unless they deserve them, that should be our approach, regardless of age, experience or potential. |
Spot on mattys123.
Sensible idea. _________________ Don't confuse your current path with your final destination. Just because it's dark and stormy now doesn't meant that you aren't headed for glorious sunshine! |
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stui magpie
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
Joined: 03 May 2005 Location: In flagrante delicto
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mattys123 wrote: | Play (and select) to win until we are mathematically out of the finals I say.
No one gets games unless they deserve them, that should be our approach, regardless of age, experience or potential. |
Stop making sense. That's against the rules this week. _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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Bob Sugar
Joined: 11 Feb 2010 Location: Benalla
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Let the kids coach the team, couldn't do any bloody worse, "u9s rules boys, everyone's on the ball" _________________ Defender...........
On the day before the first, Daicos created God.
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