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Meredith1965
Joined: 04 Jun 2022
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If we make it to the GF, it seems likely we’ll face Brisbane on the G.
A lot of people have queried whether they can play at their best on this ground.
They have only played there twice in 2023, which should be in our favour.
Once in Rd13, where they were downed by Hawthorn when Hawthorn was beginning to emerge from the cellar (and we know what Hawthorn did to us on the G later).
Then they were defeated by Melbourne by just 1 point in a high scoring game in Rd 18.
That does not seem a bad form line to me.
TWo games a year will not help them perfect a game style tailored for this ground, but when they have played there, they have performed passably well. So I am not sure it is the clear disadvantage to them I thought it was. Of course, if we get there, a big pro-Pies crowd on GF day will help us (though diluted with the usual theatregoers and carpetbaggers who pollute that day).
What is the assumption that Brisbane cannot play the G based on ? |
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What'sinaname 
Joined: 29 May 2010
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Wishing thinking I reckon.
Brisbane are, and should be, outright favourites. In terms of completeness, they are the most complete team. Very strong in the ruck / midfield, very good backline and a forward line made up of very dangerous KPF and the best small forward in the league.
This is the team I fear the most.
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jonmac1954
Joined: 07 Nov 2019
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| What'sinaname wrote: | Wishing thinking I reckon.
Brisbane are, and should be, outright favourites. In terms of completeness, they are the most complete team. Very strong in the ruck / midfield, very good backline and a forward line made up of very dangerous KPF and the best small forward in the league.
This is the team I fear the most. |
It's not wishing - they simply aren't the machine they are at home compared to coming to the G.
This is true for any non Victorian team and it applies in reverse for Victorian teams travelling interstate.
It's simply a fact. |
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23 YIPPEE!!!
YIPPEE 23!!!
Joined: 24 Jul 2019
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They play Marvel well dont forget.
It suits their game style.
MCG is thier krptonight they dont handle the wide spaces well.
Saying that they did win flags on the mcg 2001-2003.
But its not 2003 its 2023 and a whole new team.
Still think its a Pies Lions GF.
MCG. |
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Pies4shaw 
pies4shaw
Joined: 08 Oct 2007
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| jonmac1954 wrote: | | What'sinaname wrote: | Wishing thinking I reckon.
Brisbane are, and should be, outright favourites. In terms of completeness, they are the most complete team. Very strong in the ruck / midfield, very good backline and a forward line made up of very dangerous KPF and the best small forward in the league.
This is the team I fear the most. |
It's not wishing - they simply aren't the machine they are at home compared to coming to the G.
This is true for any non Victorian team and it applies in reverse for Victorian teams travelling interstate.
It's simply a fact. |
They've only lost 14 of their last 15 games at the 'G. In fact, going back to 2009, they've won (an aptly Fitzroy-like) 3 out of 27 games at the MCG. Their one win at the 'G in the last 9 seasons was against Melbourne last year in a semi-final. Melbourne lost both their finals at the 'G in 2022 to interstate teams (Sydney beat them first up, there). After getting past an inept Melbourne, the Bears lost by 12 goals to Geelong.
Not much of a form-line to be taking into an AFL Grand Final. |
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Piethagoras' Theorem 
the hypotenuse, is always a cakewalk
Joined: 29 May 2006
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It hardly matters, as they will lose their Prelim.
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Piethagoras' Theorem
the hypotenuse, is always a cakewalk
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Mind you, if they do manage to get through, that little win at Marvel will have lulled them into a false sense of security. They won't know what hit them!
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jonmac1954
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| Piethagoras' Theorem wrote: | | Mind you, if they do manage to get through, that little win at Marvel will have lulled them into a false sense of security. They won't know what hit them! |
God Marvel is a sh1tbox |
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Meredith1965
Joined: 04 Jun 2022
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| Piethagoras' Theorem wrote: | | It hardly matters, as they will lose their Prelim. |
Playing Melbourne it is just possible, though very unlikely. Playing Carlton it is a vanishingly small chance. |
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Meredith1965
Joined: 04 Jun 2022
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| Pies4shaw wrote: | | jonmac1954 wrote: | | What'sinaname wrote: | Wishing thinking I reckon.
Brisbane are, and should be, outright favourites. In terms of completeness, they are the most complete team. Very strong in the ruck / midfield, very good backline and a forward line made up of very dangerous KPF and the best small forward in the league.
This is the team I fear the most. |
It's not wishing - they simply aren't the machine they are at home compared to coming to the G.
This is true for any non Victorian team and it applies in reverse for Victorian teams travelling interstate.
It's simply a fact. |
They've only lost 14 of their last 15 games at the 'G. In fact, going back to 2009, they've won (an aptly Fitzroy-like) 3 out of 27 games at the MCG. Their one win at the 'G in the last 9 seasons was against Melbourne last year in a semi-final. Melbourne lost both their finals at the 'G in 2022 to interstate teams (Sydney beat them first up, there). After getting past an inept Melbourne, the Bears lost by 12 goals to Geelong.
Not much of a form-line to be taking into an AFL Grand Final. |
I wonder whether form on a ground the previous year can be extrapolated to this year ? Same coach, more developed players … maybe it can. It’s an interesting conjecture. |
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melliot
Joined: 07 Apr 2006
Location: Bendigo
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I think home ground advantage in finals and particularly the GF is diminished to a fair degree.
Visiting Players/teams just seem to get over it.
Eg: Id reckon our record in finals interstate isn't much different to the G. But I haven't done the numbers to prove it. |
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Cam 
Nick's BB Member #166
Joined: 10 May 2002
Location: Springvale
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I think the Lions will play well wherever they play... and the Grand Final reduces the Collingwood crowd power significantly. IF we get there, I think it will go down to the wire ala 2018, whichever team we play.
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Culprit 
Joined: 06 Feb 2003
Location: Port Melbourne
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| Don't underestimate them, they are a good team and our record against them in Grand Finals isn't great. I actually give Melb and Carlton a huge chance to knock them off. We need to win the prelim first. |
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Mr Miyagi
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| There’s a reason we played our home game against them at Marvel. I still think we would have beaten them at the G. |
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jonmac1954
Joined: 07 Nov 2019
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| Marvel and the G are completely different animals. The widest wings in the game and that swirling wind is a true puzzle for many a visiting forward. |
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