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RudeBoy
Joined: 28 Nov 2005
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I've always been of the view that the father/son rule should be expanded, not diminished. A club should have the first option to draft a player whose father played even one game for their club.
Romance and tradition are integral to what makes our game so great. The corporatisation of the game, now run by lawyers and business execs, is slowly strangling the last vestiges of what was once 'the people's game'. This is predominantly evidenced on game day, where supporters are subject to endless advertisements and programmed noise, before, during and after games, hardly leaving any space for organic crowd involvement. It's got so bad, combined with the flashing advertising around the ground, that my love of attending games is in a state of steady decline.
But that's just me I guess.
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stui magpie 
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
Joined: 03 May 2005
Location: In flagrante delicto
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It's not just you, I've only been to 1 game post Covid. I just cbf. The game day experience for me just doesn't justify the travel time and expense when I can stay home with the heater on, drink and eat what I want, yell at the TV with no one around to be offended and don't have to get a train home after.
The game day experience IMO is designed for theatre goers, not fans. I don't enjoy it, so I stay home.
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Philthypie
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Location: Teesdale, Vic
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^^^
Not to mention hideous, mind numbing games at the breaks, and the ever increasing "after goal" songs that absolutely drive me bananas! |
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Meredith1965
Joined: 04 Jun 2022
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Yeah, went to my first game in ages at Marvel, Pies vs Wiggles.
Horrendous noise from PA all day. Like being shouted at by officialdom in North Korea for not clapping hard enough.
God I hate the AFL. |
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lazzadesilva 
Joined: 04 Feb 2003
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I can empathise with you but the AFL have to cater for fans in all age groups, and the younger generation seem to want additional (loud) entertainment as well as the footy! Us old princes/princesses need to suck it up 📏🍹🥤
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Arch@M32
Joined: 30 Jan 2011
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Who amongst this "younger generation" wants it? Were they surveyed? Was a study conducted? Why would the "younger generation" want mostly 30+ year old songs played after each goal?
Show me the evidence that shows that young people want it! |
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RudeBoy
Joined: 28 Nov 2005
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| lazzadesilva wrote: | | I can empathise with you but the AFL have to cater for fans in all age groups, and the younger generation seem to want additional (loud) entertainment as well as the footy! Us old princes/princesses need to suck it up 📏🍹🥤 |
Fwiw, a small sample size I grant you, my son and his mates who are all in their 20s absolutely hate all the commercialisation and advertising/promotional bs that goes on at the footy these days. I doubt anyone likes it, but obviously most people put up with it, because they have no choice. It has been forced upon us. |
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Newelly 
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Joined: 21 Apr 1999
Location: Perth again.
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| RudeBoy wrote: | | I doubt anyone likes it, but obviously most people put up with it, because they have no choice. It has been forced upon us. |
I suppose it could always get worse and attempt to match the NFL where there seem to be far more advertising minutes than game minutes during any telecast. AFLHQ gets a twinkle in their eye when gazing upon anything the NFL does so I might regret even mentioning that aspect of the NFL telecasts
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Woods Of Ypres
Joined: 27 May 2003
Location: Yugoslavia
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| the whole pre-game announcement of every single player is so cringe. they copied this from soccer. |
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What'sinaname 
Joined: 29 May 2010
Location: Living rent free
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Jesus, I feel like you haven't been to a Pies game if you think there isn't organic noise.
The crowd gets so loud, my watch beeps to tell me the dB reading is dangerous for your hearing.
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RudeBoy
Joined: 28 Nov 2005
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My two most memorable examples of genuine organic crowd involvement by Pies fans are:
1. Way back in the early 70s, I was at Vic Park when we were being well beaten at 3/4 time (by Essendon I think, but I'm not sure). I recall the Collingwood trainers turn away from the team huddle and face the crowd, whereupon they began to wave their towels in the air, urging the Pies fans to lift the team with their voices. The crowd noise and Collingwood chanting was as loud as I've ever heard. It had the intended effect, as the Pies stormed home in the last quarter to achieve a remarkable come from behind win, with the crowd behind the team all the way.
2. Then there was the day, not so long ago, at Docklands, when Dids had his first game back after being stood down for a period, after being in the wrong place at the wrong time, caught up in a gangsters car. That week the media had been disgracefully engaging in a full on character assassination of Dids, and there was even talk that he should be kicked out of the AFL. Early in the game, Dids came on to the ground from the bench, leading to Pies fans going ballistic stamping their feet, creating a thunderous noise, such that I've never heard before or since. |
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Newelly
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Joined: 21 Apr 1999
Location: Perth again.
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| What'sinaname wrote: | Jesus, I feel like you haven't been to a Pies game if you think there isn't organic noise.
The crowd gets so loud, my watch beeps to tell me the dB reading is dangerous for your hearing. |
It's loud but I've heard from several independent sources what the MCG pipes crowd noise through the speakers.
I lived near the MCG for 2 years and couldn't believe the crowd roar from Dee's v Giants match. I could believe it alot more when I heard about radio rentacrowd.
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think positive
Side By Side
Joined: 30 Jun 2005
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my sister is 10 min walk from the G, she can hear the sirens and crowd! I fricken hate the bloody song, the kiss cam etc, i just want footy! Last 2 games at Marvel were bloody awful! give me the G anyday!
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David
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Joined: 27 Jul 2003
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| Arch@M32 wrote: | Who amongst this "younger generation" wants it? Were they surveyed? Was a study conducted? Why would the "younger generation" want mostly 30+ year old songs played after each goal?
Show me the evidence that shows that young people want it! |
My thoughts exactly. Nobody asked, and nobody stopped to try to actually figure out if football without all the bells and whistles would still be exciting for kids. I have a hunch it would be, every bit as much as it was in the old days.
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Piesnchess
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| think positive wrote: | | my sister is 10 min walk from the G, she can hear the sirens and crowd! I fricken hate the bloody song, the kiss cam etc, i just want footy! Last 2 games at Marvel were bloody awful! give me the G anyday! |
Too right Jo, give me the MCG anyday, I only go to 3 games tops now, all at the Coliseum ! Used to love ol VP , back in the day, my salad youth days, all long hair, denim, bodyshirt, rodeo boots, pirate belt, cravat, LOL. Yeh, packed in like sardines , Yarra falls end, McKenna kicking bags of goals, courtesy of Barry Price and johnny Greening, wayne richardson, Thommo smacking big Nick in the goal square, v Caaaarlton, the day the essendon cheer squad flogger caught fire, done by a ratbag mate I knew then. ! The peanut bloke, "peanuts ten cents a bag", beer cans on sale, luke warm pies,huge hot dogs, I went to most suburban grounds, even windy hill, once, which was like being on the movie set of "Deliverance" ,you could nearly hear the banjos ! Arden st was a shithole, Moorabbin was just plain nuts , with its animal enclousure. Phew. Yeh, all great memories of the once peoples game, even VFL park I liked too. All gone now, mores the pity. 
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