Vale #27,#3 John McCarthy (1989-2012)

Post by **David** » Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:03 pm

I agree, Kaylene. Caroline Wilson's article from this morning suggested that McCarthy was seriously distressed before the incident and called his girlfriend to say that he wanted to go home. It was bad enough when it seemed like this was just some stupid drunken incident, but it's beginning to sound far worse.

burnsy17 · Post by **burnsy17** » Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:16 pm

Vegas can be a nasty place..... it is not uncommon for people to be drugged and robbed....

Post by **David** » Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:19 pm

Good point, Burnsy. I've been wondering the same thing. Did somebody spike his drink? I guess it's still just conjecture.

http://www.theage.com.au/world/unmarked ... 25pkd.html

It is easy to see why there are conflicting stories about how John McCarthy came to die at dawn on Sunday morning at the Flamingo casino in Las Vegas.

His body was found at the base of a palm tree in the driveway that runs to the hotel's main vehicle entrance, between one wing of the Flamingo and the adjoining Bill's Gamblin' Hall and Saloon, two of the older venues on the strip.

The long drive running from Las Vegas Boulevard is lined on each side by palm trees, the tallest of which are almost level with the roofline of the two buildings.

The tower of the Flamingo rises out of this three story building and is set far back.

Mr McCarthy's body was found at the foot of one of these palms, just metres from where casino staff manage limousines and taxis from a booth, perhaps giving rise to the suggestion that he fell from one of the trees.

Staff have been instructed not to discuss the matter with reporters, though it is understood they believe he fell or jumped from the roof. There is no public access to the roof, and there is no public space on the floor immediately below.

The only other apparent possibility is that he had somehow gained access to a small balcony, the only other feature on the long, blank wall.

On Sunday night it was reported that police said they were interviewing people who had been at or near the scene at the time, though this was not confirmed today by a Las Vegas Police Department spokeswoman, Laura Meltzer.

She said police were investigating whether or not there was useful security footage of the scene and would be interviewing any other players who had been with McCartney before the incident.

She said detectives responded as a matter of procedure but that the incident was not necessarily considered suspicious.

Today, as tourists posed with Elvis lookalikes and super heroes on the famous strip, staff who worked in bars just metres away knew nothing of the event.

The site of McCarthy's death was unmarked.

Post by **BBHS** » Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:42 pm

Having been over to Vegas many times it is very easy to get in trouble. There are many types roaming the streets at that time of night and I have almost gotten myself into trouble doing stupid things.

While I understand it looks somewhat confusing for many from afar it's pretty easy to get yourself in trouble in Vegas.

RIP J-MAC

Two_Pies · Post by **Two_Pies** » Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:45 pm

This is a local Las Vegas report ...

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2012/se ... ll-flamin/

Tanks1966 · Post by **Tanks1966** » Tue Sep 11, 2012 3:08 pm

I hope the cheer squad have a port and collingwood jumper on the banner with his picture in the middle for this weeks final

burnsy17 · Post by **burnsy17** » Tue Sep 11, 2012 3:17 pm

BBHS wrote:Having been over to Vegas many times it is very easy to get in trouble. There are many types roaming the streets at that time of night and I have almost gotten myself into trouble doing stupid things.

While I understand it looks somewhat confusing for many from afar it's pretty easy to get yourself in trouble in Vegas.

RIP J-MAC

100% agree with all of that.

The_Staunton · Post by **The_Staunton** » Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:01 pm

burnsy17 wrote:
BBHS wrote:Having been over to Vegas many times it is very easy to get in trouble. There are many types roaming the streets at that time of night and I have almost gotten myself into trouble doing stupid things.

While I understand it looks somewhat confusing for many from afar it's pretty easy to get yourself in trouble in Vegas.

RIP J-MAC
100% agree with all of that.

Absolutely correct

The people who want to be your "friends" are numerous and deadly

It can be a worrying place if you get lost

Nick - Pie Man · Post by **Nick - Pie Man** » Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:22 pm

Dont wacky adventures in Vegas usually resolve themselves in an amusing fashion??

swoop42 · Post by **swoop42** » Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:01 pm

It's hard to imagine a person happy to travel overseas for a holiday suffering a sudden onset of serious depression within hours of landing.

Post by **David** » Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:05 pm

I was thinking the same, but who's to say? Depression is depression, Vegas or not. In fact, I could see how a night on the piss and/or other substances (particularly if ingested unknowingly) could bring matters to a head. Whatever the circumstances, it's a dreadful tragedy.

swoop42 · Post by **swoop42** » Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:17 pm

David wrote:I was thinking the same, but who's to say? Depression is depression, Vegas or not. In fact, I could see how a night on the piss and/or other substances (particularly if ingested unknowingly) could bring matters to a head. Whatever the circumstances, it's a dreadful tragedy.

I had two friends who were travelling together in europe for a couple of weeks only for one of them to a have a total mental breakdown that required hospitalisation.

He had no history of mental illness.

What caused it is not totally clear but it was probably a combination of to much drinking, not enough sleep, perhaps some minor drug experimentation (unsure) with the trigger my other friend concluding finding himself in a country where english wasn't the main language and a sudden realisation of how far he was from home.

The human brain is a mysterious thing.

Beast · Post by **Beast** » Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:03 am

I'm not trying to suggest this was the case but a bad batch of acid can have that effect on an inexperienced user.

Vale J-Mac

E · Post by E » Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:15 am

Beast wrote:I'm not trying to suggest this was the case but a bad batch of acid can have that effect on an inexperienced user.

Vale J-Mac

i can agree with that. I've had some hairy moments having to look after friends who have had some very scary reactions. I suspect some of his port adelaide teammates are going to have a very hard time living with themselves in the near term.

Of course that is just one of a million possible explanations, but i do agree that one explanation for what happended is what is suggested by the Beast (who, by the way, has never posted anything remotely intelligent before so its odd and rathewr ironic that his one intelligent post relates to the effects of taking acid!)

mandy · Post by **mandy** » Wed Sep 12, 2012 7:00 am

Anyone else think this is a strange thing to say?

"They (Port Adelaide) embraced him," he said. "Not long before he went overseas, he had a little dirt on his ear ... he had been through a lot, the young man. But he was looking forward to the year ahead."

Mr Olle did not expand on the circumstances of McCarthy's death during an end-of-season trip with his team-mates.

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Vale #27,#3 John McCarthy (1989-2012)