Post match. Hawks down Pies - all comments

[Big T]

i noticed Caff and Lynch were the two that could not take clean one touch possession, stood out like dogs balls. Caff tagging is keeping him in the team, nothing else.

[woftam]

David Parkin's votes for what they're worth:

3. Hodge
2. Sewell
1. Grundy

Hodge was the loose man in defense. Not the first time either. Obviously our brains trust disrespect him. Sewell was great in the first quarter but not great afterwards. Grundy was great tonight.

[Museman]

or the boys were tired from 2 pretty hard weeks of a 6 day break, had some shit disposal and unlucky calls and on another day could have been pretty even? NAH we have a shit game plan... Geezus you lot sometimes.

No steve,

We have a GP that doesn't match up well v Hawthorn, if you haven't realized this by now maybe nothing short of a hammer and chisel is gonna get it in there, we developed a game plan to defeat geelong...they developed/tweaked to do the same to us 2011.

The Buckley strategy v Hawthorn seems to be why change it.... a 6 goal+ loss is good enough....

meh think your wrong. We could beat em this year if we get far enough. Unlucky tonight and played ordinary and were close most the game.. Agreed game plan doesn't suit there style we need someone behind these packs.. but we arn't so far off that we can't win. See what happens we are a maturing team.

Hmmm we will see,

Though I guess we already have after the last 5 outings ay?

Same shit different day...same result, same complaints about GP, umpiring, just not quite hanging in there long enough...yada yada....

Sounding familiar?

Bux lost me tonight, I am honestly stunned at how DUMB he appears to be.

[Collingwood Crackerjack]

You can't criticize BROWN for not doing something he has NEVER done.

Apply that argument to any other player on the field.

Can we not criticize Cloke for not kicking straight? He never has
Can we not criticize Sinkers /Williams for their lack of disposal finesse? They have never been good kicks.

The real difference between Sinker/Williams and Brown is that Brown is a top 10 draft pick up.

Yes, I expect more than a bloody stopper

[swoop42]

Disappointing but we just lacked the polish tonight when it mattered most.

We must try and draft some taller bigger bodied midfielders/flankers who either possess silky skills and/or play the game with a streak of venom.

Tonight our midget brigade was somewhat exposed.

[ThePieMind]

Both your examples relate to skills EXPECTED in these players - ie critical skills, and they probably have KPI's accordingly.

Buck does not EXPECT Brown to be a rebounding defender and I doubt he has KPI's in this regard, in the same way he doesn't have KPI's for clearances.

I think that's the difference

[Collingwood Crackerjack]

I hear what your saying, but how does the same argument hold up when you look at your Harry Taylors or other top ranked back men? Lets face it, we didn't have to spend a top 10 draft pick and 7 years of development to produce a 2nd forward stopper. He could be better. You feel otherwise, no worries, lets leave it there

[Brown26]

If we had 2 Browns tonight (to simplify the argument to the current gutter level it seems to be in) Buddy would've kicked one, we would've had 3 extra clearances from forward 50 and possibly 3 more goals and won by a point.

Every team needs stoppers, and Brown does it very well IMO on most nights.

Most teams don't have two gun talls, two talls yes but not two guns. Let Brown stop Reiwoldt and Keefe run off Kosi, let Brown stop Hurley and Keefe run off Hille, let Brown stop Roughead and Keefe...

Brown does his role well. If everyone did that tonight we'd have won.

- Ben

[Dave The Man]

also hope grundy doesn't get a nomination for rising star this year so he can win it next year.

He Can get Nominated This Season and Next Season

[Dave The Man]

Grundy is brilliant, but lets not kill him too early... I'd be happy if he's not played next week!

I would play him along Side Jolly

[Collingwood Crackerjack]

If we had 2 Browns tonight (to simplify the argument to the current gutter level it seems to be in) Buddy would've kicked one, we would've had 3 extra clearances from forward 50 and possibly 3 more goals and won by a point.

Every team needs stoppers, and Brown does it very well IMO on most nights.

Most teams don't have two gun talls, two talls yes but not two guns. Let Brown stop Reiwoldt and Keefe run off Kosi, let Brown stop Hurley and Keefe run off Hille, let Brown stop Roughead and Keefe...

Brown does his role well. If everyone did that tonight we'd have won.

- Ben

Yeah, with 2 Browns we would of won the game; lets get Mitch shall we?

And you accuse I of simplifying to a gutter level?

Nice one Bro

[Dave The Man]

Not completely embarrassed, but jeez we butchered the ball at times.

Focusing on the big positive of the night though:

HOW GOOD IS GRUNDY???

This! They were a lot cleaner than us.

and Used the Ball Better

[The_Staunton]

If we had 2 Browns tonight (to simplify the argument to the current gutter level it seems to be in) Buddy would've kicked one, we would've had 3 extra clearances from forward 50 and possibly 3 more goals and won by a point.

Every team needs stoppers, and Brown does it very well IMO on most nights.

Most teams don't have two gun talls, two talls yes but not two guns. Let Brown stop Reiwoldt and Keefe run off Kosi, let Brown stop Hurley and Keefe run off Hille, let Brown stop Roughead and Keefe...

Brown does his role well. If everyone did that tonight we'd have won.

- Ben

Yeah, with 2 Browns we would of won the game; lets get Mitch shall we?

And you accuse I of simplifying to a gutter level?

Nice one Bro

Maybe Rowdy could have come back to be the 2nd Brown, give us some grunt?

[Brown26]

I think you get the point thought

- Ben

[Piesnchess]

Buddy will piss off to GWS anyway, chasing his millions, so that will **** up those ****, colours of shit and pee, dawks and their insufferable dickhead fans, once and for all. That is when we will start beating them again, nothing lasts forever, as the dawks will learn the hard way eventually.!