Yep. Both parties need to feel like they’ve not lost. It creates goodwill and makes future negotiations possible. See the Essendon bloke as the alternative - always wants to win big so now no one wants to deal with him.jackcass wrote:Isn’t that how a negotiation works. We offered 58, they came back with a counter-offer of 36, settled on 43.
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I think we need to see who we land ( if anyone ) in the PSD before we condemn handing over # 43 for Lipinski. If Collingwood have a best 22 player earmarked for the PSD, then I wouldn’t be complaining to about handing over # 43. I think we still marginally got the better of the deal as it is but only time is the true judge of these trades.WarrenerraW wrote:Literally screwed by the pooch again. What is so wrong with our club that we willingly take it from behind by clubs when we hold the aces. We said 58, the dogs demanded 41 then we give it to em instead of telling them to get stuffed or walk him to the psd. Another job well done pies. Congratulations.
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Some clubs need to learn that the trade period is not about dicking over another club. It's not a game and we're not all out to win some kind of trophy.ronrat wrote:Agreed about Dodoro, is a smartarse and it has cost them Bobby Hill. If he stuffs next year and the others won't deal with him the Bummers will give him the lemonade and sars.
Sure no one want's to "lose a trade", but the idea in many cases is for clubs to help each other out like Collingwood and Gold Coast did on day 1.
I know things can be different when a player rather than picks is involved, but Dodoro is obsessed with lowballing clubs for their decent players, while also demanding a kings ransom for his own players. He has no interest in finding a suitable deal that helps both clubs out. It's not in his nature. He'd much rather hold up proceedings and screw clubs around. Then he acts like he cares about a players welfare.
Dunkley 2020 = fail.
Hill 2021 = fail.
It's no secret that literally every other club won't deal with him. Essendon need to sack him. He's not good at his job. Yet he escapes scrutiny.
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That's the other thing. We've brought in a best 22 player for a pick in the 40s. That is something.jackcass wrote:Isn’t that how a negotiation works. We offered 58, they came back with a counter-offer of 36, settled on 43.
What would be bad is failing to get the deal done and then waiting a month to get him in the PSD where anything could happen, including returning to the Dogs or being picked up by North. Why make him sweat it out when we can get him now for a pick that will likely be chewed up by Daicos bid? And a pick the Dogs will use for Darcy bid too. It's like trading thin air.
We've done really well. We got our man and we still have a PSD pick if someone takes our fancy.
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Welcome Paddy, well done. Now Pendles can have a rest maybe up forward for awhile, hes been dying for a rest for years, as Danny said in the movie, THE CLUB. !
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Charlie Constable. Has to be.Presti35 wrote:That's the other thing. We've brought in a best 22 player for a pick in the 40s. That is something.jackcass wrote:Isn’t that how a negotiation works. We offered 58, they came back with a counter-offer of 36, settled on 43.
What would be bad is failing to get the deal done and then waiting a month to get him in the PSD where anything could happen, including returning to the Dogs or being picked up by North. Why make him sweat it out when we can get him now for a pick that will likely be chewed up by Daicos bid? And a pick the Dogs will use for Darcy bid too. It's like trading thin air.
We've done really well. We got our man and we still have a PSD pick if someone takes our fancy.
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I don't think Pendles wants to rest.Piesnchess wrote:Welcome Paddy, well done. Now Pendles can have a rest maybe up forward for awhile, hes been dying for a rest for years, as Danny said in the movie, THE CLUB. !
He's playing well enough to keep going as he always has!
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I think it's fair deal for both clubs. Neither club lost out here.jackcass wrote:Isn’t that how a negotiation works. We offered 58, they came back with a counter-offer of 36, settled on 43.
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After such a loss, much gets lost in the post match dissection. But Patrick Lipinski played another great game, off the back of an already stellar 2022.
He's running at 23 goal assits for the season, ranking him at 6th in the Comp this year.
In the QF against Geelong, he had a season high of 3.
He has laid 79 tackles for an averfage of 3.52 per game.
Gatherered 8.09 Contested Possesions and 13.91 Uncontested Possessions per game.
An important stat is the 3.22 Inside 50's per game, highlighting his effectiveness as a link player to deliver the ball inside F50. That's on par with Josh Daicos.
When it comes to disposal efficency, at 70.07% he's ahead of JDG & Sidey and knocking on the door of Nick Daicos at 71.35%.
All in all, he's been one of our great pick-ups, so full credit to the Football Dep't for identifying him and offloading the meagure pick 43 to secure him.
https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_ ... t=LA&st=EP
He's running at 23 goal assits for the season, ranking him at 6th in the Comp this year.
In the QF against Geelong, he had a season high of 3.
He has laid 79 tackles for an averfage of 3.52 per game.
Gatherered 8.09 Contested Possesions and 13.91 Uncontested Possessions per game.
An important stat is the 3.22 Inside 50's per game, highlighting his effectiveness as a link player to deliver the ball inside F50. That's on par with Josh Daicos.
When it comes to disposal efficency, at 70.07% he's ahead of JDG & Sidey and knocking on the door of Nick Daicos at 71.35%.
All in all, he's been one of our great pick-ups, so full credit to the Football Dep't for identifying him and offloading the meagure pick 43 to secure him.
https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_ ... t=LA&st=EP
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