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But Dan was unable to answer any questions when he was interviewed by IBAC as he could not recall what promises he made the union or what discussions he had with anyone.

Basically it says it was corruption but because they can only deal in criminal conduct and no one was able to admit responsibility, it is just another bad Dan, don’t do it again report.
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The “grey” corruption extending to public servants, private contractors and the like:

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/vict ... 5d28k.html


I have to confess, I just handed back more than 20 bic biros which I put in my shirt pocket at the beginning of a shift then go home with them simply forgetting that I had them. There’d be another 20 I reckon.

I didn’t disclose my share portfolio with bic.
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IBAC needs to be ICAC. The opposition has been so weak in Vic that the thrice elected Premier of Victoria has been able to maintain IBAC.

Still he didn’t disclose future dealings to his partner to profit from, like Gladys did. NSW system of course is much stronger than Vics and should be the model Nationwide.

Before the thrice elected Premier of Victoria the right honourable Daniel Andrews becomes the fourth term elected Premier he should introduce an ICAC to replace IBAC.

But to quote the Premier; it is educational.
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David wrote:Rundle doesn't pull any punches:
I usually need a dictionary to read Rundle. He does go way OTT, that at times not unlike this time you think he’s forgotten to take his Lithium.

Still we need more Guy Rundles in this world.
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watt price tully wrote:IBAC needs to be ICAC. The opposition has been so weak in Vic that the thrice elected Premier of Victoria has been able to maintain IBAC.

Still he didn’t disclose future dealings to his partner to profit from, like Gladys did. NSW system of course is much stronger than Vics and should be the model Nationwide.

Before the thrice elected Premier of Victoria the right honourable Daniel Andrews becomes the fourth term elected Premier he should introduce an ICAC to replace IBAC.

But to quote the Premier; it is educational.
If Dan moves to implement a proper ICAC, we'll know he's about to retire.
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stui magpie wrote:
watt price tully wrote:IBAC needs to be ICAC. The opposition has been so weak in Vic that the thrice elected Premier of Victoria has been able to maintain IBAC.

Still he didn’t disclose future dealings to his partner to profit from, like Gladys did. NSW system of course is much stronger than Vics and should be the model Nationwide.

Before the thrice elected Premier of Victoria the right honourable Daniel Andrews becomes the fourth term elected Premier he should introduce an ICAC to replace IBAC.

But to quote the Premier; it is educational.
If Dan moves to implement a proper ICAC, we'll know he's about to retire.
At the end of 12 years one would think that’s a fair time as leader. Will he see out the 12 years?
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probably.

Personally I'd love to see him resign in disgrace but with his toothless IBAC and his ability to micromanage through centralised power yet simultaneously manage to avoid all blame, he's more likely to resign next year before the full extent of the mess the budget is in gets out and he can leave a Labor Hero with the mess left to a woman to clean up.
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stui magpie wrote:^

probably.

Personally I'd love to see him resign in disgrace but with his toothless IBAC and his ability to micromanage through centralised power yet simultaneously manage to avoid all blame, he's more likely to resign next year before the full extent of the mess the budget is in gets out and he can leave a Labor Hero with the mess left to a woman to clean up.
Just needs to clean up the Fire brigade, the CFA, expand the ALP’s great work with TAFE, protect forests from logging (his biggest sin) more money for public education and the hospitals, then he can go.

If the Libs persist with Moira Deeming type religious nutters as candidates/ elected members then the ALP will be looking at a 4th term.
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Oh, the Libs are $@&^#, particularly in Victoria. Labor should be marking in a 4th term in permanent marker. The best the Libs can hope for at the next election is to get within striking distance for the one after that, keeping mind that state elections normally go against the Federal Government of the day.
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Let's not forget when Labor got nearly totally wiped out in Queensland and then came back to win four years later under Palaszczuk. I don't think anyone can say with certainty that a party is out of the race this far out.
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The so called Danslide was less than Bracks got in 2002 and even the last election, the ALP have the same amount of seats as 2006, so the margin definitely isn’t the issue, it’s whether the opposition can turn it around or if Dans resignation for ‘personal reasons’ results in the same turnaround as Bracks ‘personal reasons’’ resignation.
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David wrote:Let's not forget when Labor got nearly totally wiped out in Queensland and then came back to win four years later under Palaszczuk. I don't think anyone can say with certainty that a party is out of the race this far out.
That was Queensland. Victorian Libs have a loooong way to go to make themselves electable.
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Often the old adage “It’s the economy, stupid” determines elections.
You can never rule out the Lib Nats in a two horse race but as noted earlier if they align themselves with fringe nutters as they continue to do then it makes their job harder to regain government.

Should the Murdoch press continue to embrace fringe views too then the Libs job will also be that much harder.

There’s a long way to go to make any realistic predictions.
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stui magpie wrote:
David wrote:Let's not forget when Labor got nearly totally wiped out in Queensland and then came back to win four years later under Palaszczuk. I don't think anyone can say with certainty that a party is out of the race this far out.
That was Queensland. Victorian Libs have a loooong way to go to make themselves electable.
Libs sacked all the useless oxygen thieving public servants infesting the workforce, and paid them out. Took a razor to the budget.

Labour <snip>s rehired them all after their payouts. Wile E Coyote type genius.
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