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You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either!
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Yeah, once you've expressed your view diplomatically (not, my thing, but...), you just have to let them go through their process unless it's an immediate risk. If you intervene too much, whatever's driving them will be turned on you, so it has to be life and death to intervene.

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I guess it depends how strongly you feel on the subject, and whether it’s illegal too!
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"Every time we witness an injustice and do not act, we train our character to be passive in its presence." – Julian Assange
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Life coaching- hard gig to be credible. You need some serious life experience and/or Psych quals to be able to do it properly, not just having read a self help book and got a following on Insta.

Is the devout Lenin reader living in a squat, on the dole and volunteering at a soup kitchen or are they an IT Professional earning 6 figures and hating themselves for it?
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He’s a disability support worker and does indeed volunteer at a soup kitchen! He and his comrades have taken a leaf out of the book of the Christians and are using it as a community outreach program… :)
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Hah, the soup marxist. :lol:
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no soup for you!

oh thats the nazi~
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No issues with him volunteering in the soup kitchen whatsover, as you say it's a very good thing to do, just the Soup Nazi came to mind. :wink:

Guess the Soup Nazi says "No soup for you" and the Soup Marxist says "free soup for you"
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pietillidie wrote:Yeah, once you've expressed your view diplomatically (not, my thing, but...), you just have to let them go through their process unless it's an immediate risk. If you intervene too much, whatever's driving them will be turned on you, so it has to be life and death to intervene.

People need time to work through things.
Just to add to that quickly, being there for when the opening for change dawns is sometimes as good as you can do (except if being there is dragging you down).

The more extreme on the far-left use good deeds as a cover for low esteem (sometimes a vulnerable narcissism). In such cases they will be feeling bad enough about themselves they have to 'prove' they're okay to themselves by doing visible deeds, like many in religion. Others are angry due to being bullied historically. Or both combined. So, look for the inner voices from childhood shooting down the self behind these extreme positions.

It's damned hard to engagea psychological fundamentalism, much like a religious fanatic or Trump red hat, so don't do your own head in the process (not because you're insensitive; rather, because you are sensitive, and there's no point more people being pulled into that destructive psychological trap).
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