I must have watched a different game. He’s slowed up no doubt, but his skills remain sublime. From memory, there’s half a dozen goals that come about in part due to old Neo.woodys_world69 wrote:What was wrong with pendles? He struggled tonight
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I do wonder how much of the last 12 months has caught up with Ginnivan.
After the way the media piled on him, the umpires have unfairly treated his capacity to earn free kicks and his silly drug issue, I am not surprised by his form.
His biggest asset is also not a physical one like the speed of Hill or the strength of Mccreery. He is blessed with elite goal sense. Unfortunately he is not getting the ball enough and when he does he is under too much pressure.
He will be better next year but I can't see him making a significant contribution in 2023
After the way the media piled on him, the umpires have unfairly treated his capacity to earn free kicks and his silly drug issue, I am not surprised by his form.
His biggest asset is also not a physical one like the speed of Hill or the strength of Mccreery. He is blessed with elite goal sense. Unfortunately he is not getting the ball enough and when he does he is under too much pressure.
He will be better next year but I can't see him making a significant contribution in 2023
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JC Hartley
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Premiership favourites Collingwood put on a clinic to completely dismantle Gold Coast at Heritage Bank Stadium by 78 points, courteousy of a prolific first half, where the Magpies burnt the Suns below the horizon to put the contest beyond doubt. The margin at quarter time was 26 points in favour of Collingwood, before the Magpies piled on 7 goals in the second term to open up a lead of 62 points at half time The third term was a bit of a holding pattern where the Woods booted all of their goals in the third quarter within the first 10 minutes, until the Suns converted 4 majors in 11 minutes from the 17-minute mark until the 28-minute mark of the quarter to reduce Collingwood's margin to 57 points at the final change. The final term saw the Pies kick on and restore ground they had lost in the previous quarter to run out the game as victors by 78 points.
Collingwood won their statistical categories from sources such as disposals by +75 (404 - 329), kicks by +10 (231 - 221), +65 for handballs (173 - 108), while contested possessions had an advantage of +27 (146 - 119), +47 for uncontested possessions (240 - 193), intercept possessions were won by +7 ( 75 - 68 ), while turnovers had an outcome of -7 (67 - 74). Clearances had a differential of +5 (35 - 30), stoppage clearances were up by +5 (22 - 17), and tackles had a gap of +9 (61 - 52). Contested marks were won by +5 (14 - 9), followed by an advantage of +7 for intercept marks ( 75 - 68 ), while Marks Inside 50 were up by +8 ( 16 - 8 ), and Inside 50s had a margin of +17 (62 - 45). Gold Coast won their only statistical categories through hit-outs and marks, especially uncontested marks. Hit-outs were won by +9 (34 - 25), marks had a differential of +14 (106 - 92), and +19 for uncontested marks ( 97 - 78 ). Centre clearances (13 each) and Tackles Inside 50 (11 apiece) were the only statistical categories that were evenly shared and in dispute.
Nick Daicos (36 disposals @ 78%, 500 metres gained, 13 contested possessions, 23 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 17 kicks, 19 handballs, 7 marks, 10 tackles, 10 score involvements, 8 clearances, 5 centre clearances, 3 stoppage clearances, 5 Inside 50s, 2 Rebound 50s & 1 goal) had the footy on the end of a string in a game full of superlatives. Nick was exceptional at clearances, and was the catalyst in transitional ball movement from defence to attack in creating scoring chains with tremendous ball use and was highly influentual in the contest.
Tom Mitchell (30 disposals @ 70%, 598 metres gained, 9 contested possessions, 21 uncontested possessions, 4 intercept possessions, 15 kicks, 15 handballs, 3 marks, 4 tackles, 8 score involvements, 4 clearances, 3 stoppage clearances & 7 Inside 50s) provided and produced territory with each of his kicks, linked up nicely with his handpasses opening up play for his team to move the ball, and was heavily involved in scoring thrusts.
Scott Pendlebury (27 disposals @ 70%, 276 metres gained, 8 contested possessions, 19 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 13 kicks, 14 handballs, 4 tackles, 10 score involvements, 6 clearances, 5 stoppage clearances, 4 Inside 50s & 2 Rebound 50s) played a circumspect role, despite his accumulation of possessions that allowed his team to win the football and maintain possession accurately and effectively. Score involvement numbers were at a high level, of which Pendlebury was one of countless individuals who contributed to the damaging ball movement that Collingwood were able to do.
Josh Daicos (27 disposals @ 70%, 535 metres gained, 8 contested possessions, 19 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 16 kicks, 11 handballs, 3 marks, 3 tackles, 1 goal assist, 6 score involvements, 4 Inside 50s & 2 Rebound 50s) had a tremendous first half with 16 disposals that were very effective, accurate and impactful. Josh was quiet in the third term with just 2 disposals, before responding in the last quarter with 9 possessions to finish the game strongly.
Will Hoskin-Elliott (19 disposals @ 68%, 386 metres gained, 5 contested possessions, 14 uncontested possessions, 5 intercept possessions, 14 kicks, 5 handballs, 6 marks, 3 Marks Inside 50, 1 goal assist, 7 score involvements, 3 Inside 50s, 2 Rebound 50s & 1 goal) played a solid game on the wing where he was prepared to drift forward to take marks and create scoring opportunities for his teammates, while impacting the scoreboard himself.
Jack Crisp (19 disposals @ 68%, 430 metres gained, 8 contested possessions, 11 uncontested possessions, 11 kicks, 8 handballs, 4 marks, 7 tackles, 6 score involvements, 2 clearances, 6 Inside 50s & 1 goal) found some form by winning the ball through the midfield and created many opportunities for his team's forwards, while booting a classy goal which he snapped from a marking contest off hands.
John Noble (30 disposals @ 87%, 535 metres gained, 5 contested possessions, 25 uncontested possessions, 4 intercept possessions, 18 kicks, 12 handballs, 5 marks, 3 tackles, 7 score involvements, 2 Inside 50s, 5 Rebound 50s & 1 goal) generated so much drive and run out of Collingwood's defence with exquisite ball use again being a huge feature of his game.
Isaac Quaynor (24 disposals @ 96%, 286 metres gained, 7 contested possessions, 17 uncontested possessions, 8 intercept possessions, 9 kicks, 15 handballs, 6 marks, 3 score involvements & 7 Rebound 50s) was a human brickwall with vice-like hands coming in handy with several excellent marks in defence, before moving the ball on safely to maintain possession by foot, and creating play with his handpasses that allowed Collingwood's game style to come to fruition.
Darcy Moore (20 disposals @ 90%, 335 metres gained, 9 contested possessions, 11 uncontested possessions, 9 intercept possessions, 15 kicks, 5 handballs, 6 marks, 3 contested marks, 3 score involvements, 4 Inside 50s & 2 Rebound 50s) led by example with terrific foot skills and assured marking to ensure his team had the best available cover and protection to save goals.
Oleg Markov (17 disposals @ 94%, 264 metres gained, 3 contested possessions, 14 uncontested possessions, 5 intercept possessions, 11 kicks, 5 handballs, 6 marks, 1 goal assist, 9 score involvements, 2 Inside 50s, 2 Rebound 50s & 1 goal) continues to impress with every game he plays at AFL level. His latest performance was his most influential and damaging as took marks behind the ball to stabilise play, and contributed to the team outcome of scoring goals, while booting his first goal in the third term for Collingwood to cap off an excellent outing.
Brayden Maynard (16 disposals @ 81%, 308 metres gained, 6 contested possessions, 10 uncontested possessions, 8 intercept possessions, 11 kicks, 5 handballs, 8 marks, 2 tackles, 5 score involvements, 2 Inside 50s & 3 Rebound 50s) played a terrific game of footy where he pushed up beyond the defensive arc to kick the ball long at every opportunity with a high degree of effectiveness and accuracy.
Billy Frampton (15 disposals @ 73%, 404 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 11 uncontested possessions, 4 intercept possessions, 13 kicks, 2 handballs, 4 marks, 2 contested marks, 2 score involvements, 4 Inside 50s & 2 goals) played his role well in defence, before being swung forward and managed to impact the scoreboard in impressive fashion.
Nathan Murphy (14 disposals @ 86%, 190 metres gained, 7 contested possessions, 7 uncontested possessions, 8 intercept possessions, 7 kicks, 7 handballs, 4 marks, 2 tackles, 1 goal assist, 2 score involvements & 3 Rebound 50s) used the ball safely and effectively, while hauling in a few fearless marks.
Patrick Lipinski (23 disposals @ 61%, 272 metres gained, 12 contested possessions, 11 uncontested possessions, 7 kicks, 16 handballs, 3 marks, 2 goal assists, 7 score involvements, 3 clearances, 3 stoppage clearances, 4 Inside 50s, 2 Rebound 50s & 1 goal) gathered the footy cleanly and dished off several handpasses to teammates running towards goal which caught the Suns off balance, and kicked a nice goal from a stoppage.
Taylor Adams (14 disposals @ 57%, 240 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 10 uncontested possessions, 9 kicks, 5 handballs, 5 marks, 3 Marks Inside 50, 4 tackles, 4 goal assists, 9 score involvements, 4 Inside 50s & 1 goal) was very busy up forward with lead-up marks at the kicker, tackling numbers were good, and his ability to create scoring opportunities was tremendous and stupendous.
Beau McCreery (12 disposals @ 67%, 127 metres gained, 8 contested possessions, 4 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 7 kicks, 5 handballs, 3 marks, 4 tackles, 2 Tackles Inside 50, 4 score involvements & 4 Inside 50s) put on adequate pressure and created opportunities without kicking a goal.
Bobby Hill (12 disposals @ 58%, 187 metres gained, 7 contested possessions, 5 uncontested possessions, 8 kicks, 4 handballs, 2 marks, 2 Marks Inside 50, 3 tackles, 1 goal assist, 5 score involvements & 2 goals) showed his trademark speed away from his opponents to burst forward and finish off his work.
Jamie Elliott (11 disposals @ 82%, 264 metres gained, 3 contested possessions, 8 uncontested possessions, 11 kicks, 6 marks, 4 Marks Inside 50, 3 tackles, 3 Tackles Inside 50, 9 score involvements, 3 Inside 50s & 5 goals) played his best game of the season with impeccable scoreboard impact that hasn't been seen for a number of weeks. Elliott also looked to create scores, and tackled with energy and purpose, while being a focal marking target up forward, from where he converted his opportunities.
Brody Mihocek (10 disposals @ 80%, 183 metres gained, 7 contested possessions, 3 uncontested possessions, 2 intercept possessions, 6 kicks, 4 handballs, 4 marks, 4 tackles, 2 Tackles Inside 50, 2 goal assists, 5 score involvements & 2 Inside 50s) presented well to take his marks, and stayed involved in pressuring and tackling his opponents, despite being wasteful in front of goal where he did not take his chances.
Collingwood's next game will be against the Western Bulldogs at Marvel Stadium on July 7. Now is the time to light up the Friday night stage against a side that have a damaging midfield headed by Tim English and Marcus Bontempelli and focal points up forward consisting of Aaron Naughton, Jamarra Ugle-Hagan and Rory Lobb. The Magpies will be be boosted by the return of Jordan De Goey who will look to have an influence and immediate impact in deciding the contest in Collingwood's favour.
Collingwood won their statistical categories from sources such as disposals by +75 (404 - 329), kicks by +10 (231 - 221), +65 for handballs (173 - 108), while contested possessions had an advantage of +27 (146 - 119), +47 for uncontested possessions (240 - 193), intercept possessions were won by +7 ( 75 - 68 ), while turnovers had an outcome of -7 (67 - 74). Clearances had a differential of +5 (35 - 30), stoppage clearances were up by +5 (22 - 17), and tackles had a gap of +9 (61 - 52). Contested marks were won by +5 (14 - 9), followed by an advantage of +7 for intercept marks ( 75 - 68 ), while Marks Inside 50 were up by +8 ( 16 - 8 ), and Inside 50s had a margin of +17 (62 - 45). Gold Coast won their only statistical categories through hit-outs and marks, especially uncontested marks. Hit-outs were won by +9 (34 - 25), marks had a differential of +14 (106 - 92), and +19 for uncontested marks ( 97 - 78 ). Centre clearances (13 each) and Tackles Inside 50 (11 apiece) were the only statistical categories that were evenly shared and in dispute.
Nick Daicos (36 disposals @ 78%, 500 metres gained, 13 contested possessions, 23 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 17 kicks, 19 handballs, 7 marks, 10 tackles, 10 score involvements, 8 clearances, 5 centre clearances, 3 stoppage clearances, 5 Inside 50s, 2 Rebound 50s & 1 goal) had the footy on the end of a string in a game full of superlatives. Nick was exceptional at clearances, and was the catalyst in transitional ball movement from defence to attack in creating scoring chains with tremendous ball use and was highly influentual in the contest.
Tom Mitchell (30 disposals @ 70%, 598 metres gained, 9 contested possessions, 21 uncontested possessions, 4 intercept possessions, 15 kicks, 15 handballs, 3 marks, 4 tackles, 8 score involvements, 4 clearances, 3 stoppage clearances & 7 Inside 50s) provided and produced territory with each of his kicks, linked up nicely with his handpasses opening up play for his team to move the ball, and was heavily involved in scoring thrusts.
Scott Pendlebury (27 disposals @ 70%, 276 metres gained, 8 contested possessions, 19 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 13 kicks, 14 handballs, 4 tackles, 10 score involvements, 6 clearances, 5 stoppage clearances, 4 Inside 50s & 2 Rebound 50s) played a circumspect role, despite his accumulation of possessions that allowed his team to win the football and maintain possession accurately and effectively. Score involvement numbers were at a high level, of which Pendlebury was one of countless individuals who contributed to the damaging ball movement that Collingwood were able to do.
Josh Daicos (27 disposals @ 70%, 535 metres gained, 8 contested possessions, 19 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 16 kicks, 11 handballs, 3 marks, 3 tackles, 1 goal assist, 6 score involvements, 4 Inside 50s & 2 Rebound 50s) had a tremendous first half with 16 disposals that were very effective, accurate and impactful. Josh was quiet in the third term with just 2 disposals, before responding in the last quarter with 9 possessions to finish the game strongly.
Will Hoskin-Elliott (19 disposals @ 68%, 386 metres gained, 5 contested possessions, 14 uncontested possessions, 5 intercept possessions, 14 kicks, 5 handballs, 6 marks, 3 Marks Inside 50, 1 goal assist, 7 score involvements, 3 Inside 50s, 2 Rebound 50s & 1 goal) played a solid game on the wing where he was prepared to drift forward to take marks and create scoring opportunities for his teammates, while impacting the scoreboard himself.
Jack Crisp (19 disposals @ 68%, 430 metres gained, 8 contested possessions, 11 uncontested possessions, 11 kicks, 8 handballs, 4 marks, 7 tackles, 6 score involvements, 2 clearances, 6 Inside 50s & 1 goal) found some form by winning the ball through the midfield and created many opportunities for his team's forwards, while booting a classy goal which he snapped from a marking contest off hands.
John Noble (30 disposals @ 87%, 535 metres gained, 5 contested possessions, 25 uncontested possessions, 4 intercept possessions, 18 kicks, 12 handballs, 5 marks, 3 tackles, 7 score involvements, 2 Inside 50s, 5 Rebound 50s & 1 goal) generated so much drive and run out of Collingwood's defence with exquisite ball use again being a huge feature of his game.
Isaac Quaynor (24 disposals @ 96%, 286 metres gained, 7 contested possessions, 17 uncontested possessions, 8 intercept possessions, 9 kicks, 15 handballs, 6 marks, 3 score involvements & 7 Rebound 50s) was a human brickwall with vice-like hands coming in handy with several excellent marks in defence, before moving the ball on safely to maintain possession by foot, and creating play with his handpasses that allowed Collingwood's game style to come to fruition.
Darcy Moore (20 disposals @ 90%, 335 metres gained, 9 contested possessions, 11 uncontested possessions, 9 intercept possessions, 15 kicks, 5 handballs, 6 marks, 3 contested marks, 3 score involvements, 4 Inside 50s & 2 Rebound 50s) led by example with terrific foot skills and assured marking to ensure his team had the best available cover and protection to save goals.
Oleg Markov (17 disposals @ 94%, 264 metres gained, 3 contested possessions, 14 uncontested possessions, 5 intercept possessions, 11 kicks, 5 handballs, 6 marks, 1 goal assist, 9 score involvements, 2 Inside 50s, 2 Rebound 50s & 1 goal) continues to impress with every game he plays at AFL level. His latest performance was his most influential and damaging as took marks behind the ball to stabilise play, and contributed to the team outcome of scoring goals, while booting his first goal in the third term for Collingwood to cap off an excellent outing.
Brayden Maynard (16 disposals @ 81%, 308 metres gained, 6 contested possessions, 10 uncontested possessions, 8 intercept possessions, 11 kicks, 5 handballs, 8 marks, 2 tackles, 5 score involvements, 2 Inside 50s & 3 Rebound 50s) played a terrific game of footy where he pushed up beyond the defensive arc to kick the ball long at every opportunity with a high degree of effectiveness and accuracy.
Billy Frampton (15 disposals @ 73%, 404 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 11 uncontested possessions, 4 intercept possessions, 13 kicks, 2 handballs, 4 marks, 2 contested marks, 2 score involvements, 4 Inside 50s & 2 goals) played his role well in defence, before being swung forward and managed to impact the scoreboard in impressive fashion.
Nathan Murphy (14 disposals @ 86%, 190 metres gained, 7 contested possessions, 7 uncontested possessions, 8 intercept possessions, 7 kicks, 7 handballs, 4 marks, 2 tackles, 1 goal assist, 2 score involvements & 3 Rebound 50s) used the ball safely and effectively, while hauling in a few fearless marks.
Patrick Lipinski (23 disposals @ 61%, 272 metres gained, 12 contested possessions, 11 uncontested possessions, 7 kicks, 16 handballs, 3 marks, 2 goal assists, 7 score involvements, 3 clearances, 3 stoppage clearances, 4 Inside 50s, 2 Rebound 50s & 1 goal) gathered the footy cleanly and dished off several handpasses to teammates running towards goal which caught the Suns off balance, and kicked a nice goal from a stoppage.
Taylor Adams (14 disposals @ 57%, 240 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 10 uncontested possessions, 9 kicks, 5 handballs, 5 marks, 3 Marks Inside 50, 4 tackles, 4 goal assists, 9 score involvements, 4 Inside 50s & 1 goal) was very busy up forward with lead-up marks at the kicker, tackling numbers were good, and his ability to create scoring opportunities was tremendous and stupendous.
Beau McCreery (12 disposals @ 67%, 127 metres gained, 8 contested possessions, 4 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 7 kicks, 5 handballs, 3 marks, 4 tackles, 2 Tackles Inside 50, 4 score involvements & 4 Inside 50s) put on adequate pressure and created opportunities without kicking a goal.
Bobby Hill (12 disposals @ 58%, 187 metres gained, 7 contested possessions, 5 uncontested possessions, 8 kicks, 4 handballs, 2 marks, 2 Marks Inside 50, 3 tackles, 1 goal assist, 5 score involvements & 2 goals) showed his trademark speed away from his opponents to burst forward and finish off his work.
Jamie Elliott (11 disposals @ 82%, 264 metres gained, 3 contested possessions, 8 uncontested possessions, 11 kicks, 6 marks, 4 Marks Inside 50, 3 tackles, 3 Tackles Inside 50, 9 score involvements, 3 Inside 50s & 5 goals) played his best game of the season with impeccable scoreboard impact that hasn't been seen for a number of weeks. Elliott also looked to create scores, and tackled with energy and purpose, while being a focal marking target up forward, from where he converted his opportunities.
Brody Mihocek (10 disposals @ 80%, 183 metres gained, 7 contested possessions, 3 uncontested possessions, 2 intercept possessions, 6 kicks, 4 handballs, 4 marks, 4 tackles, 2 Tackles Inside 50, 2 goal assists, 5 score involvements & 2 Inside 50s) presented well to take his marks, and stayed involved in pressuring and tackling his opponents, despite being wasteful in front of goal where he did not take his chances.
Collingwood's next game will be against the Western Bulldogs at Marvel Stadium on July 7. Now is the time to light up the Friday night stage against a side that have a damaging midfield headed by Tim English and Marcus Bontempelli and focal points up forward consisting of Aaron Naughton, Jamarra Ugle-Hagan and Rory Lobb. The Magpies will be be boosted by the return of Jordan De Goey who will look to have an influence and immediate impact in deciding the contest in Collingwood's favour.
JC Hartley