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K · Post by K » Sat Sep 23, 2023 8:31 pm

piedys wrote:
K wrote:Dunno why so many folks here were trashing GWS pre-game. (Well, I said pre-game that it was the interstate effect.) And so many folks getting upset by media takes on GWS.
I mean, all the media folks I heard tipped Collingwood, but thought GWS were a real threat. (Did Nicksters want media all to tip a 10-goal Collingwood win?) Which is what I felt. And how it turned out.

K (pre-game) wrote:...
But I reckon GWS's strengths are underestimated by many folks here. It's the interstate effect. All those stars, like Toby, Kelly, Green, Whitfield, Coniglio,...
We've struggled with clearances and contested ball for several months. It's tough work trying to win scoring by slingshot off half back all the time.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1036988/ran ... out-on-top
Yep, I was in the proceed-with-caution camp with you there.
I was hopeful, more than actually confident, leading into friday.

Anyhoo, bring on the Bears...

Yeah, and I reckon the 6-day break, etc., did end up telling.

Dunno that an 8-day vs. 7-day break will count as much. But at least they didn't belt the Blues by 10 goals and rest their stars in the 2nd half.

Meredith1965 · Post by **Meredith1965** » Sat Sep 23, 2023 8:34 pm

GWS have had ten years of concessions from the AFL as they tried to tilt the playing field in their favour to build a fair-weather fan base for the most Frankenstein team since Gold Coast. Those concessions accumulate.

I suspect GWS are the most talented team in the competition by some margin. This was a great, great win.

jonmac1954 · Post by **jonmac1954** » Sat Sep 23, 2023 8:43 pm

Meredith1965 wrote:GWS have had ten years of concessions from the AFL as they tried to tilt the playing field in their favour to build a fair-weather fan base for the most Frankenstein team since Gold Coast. Those concessions accumulate.

I suspect GWS are the most talented team in the competition by some margin. This was a great, great win.

And neither team has made any inroads regarding supporter bases - they are still regarded as rude interlopers and always will be.

We will be paying for AFL hubris forever because the rugby states will never relent.

piedys · Post by **piedys** » Sat Sep 23, 2023 8:46 pm

Meredith1965 wrote:GWS have had ten years of concessions from the AFL as they tried to tilt the playing field in their favour to build a fair-weather fan base for the most Frankenstein team since Gold Coast. Those concessions accumulate.

I suspect GWS are the most talented team in the competition by some margin. This was a great, great win.

And the list of players who have actually jumped ship under Leon Cameron was something to behold.

We've made our fair share of 1st round extortion contributions for Adams, Treloar, and a little less for WHE and Bobby.

Carlton, on the other hand, bought GWS spuds by the bagful...

Piesnchess · Post by **Piesnchess** » Sat Sep 23, 2023 8:49 pm

IN my view, we defeated the best team in the finals, last night, I rate them over both Blues and Lions, unlike the Lions, they can handle the MCG. too ! We really dodged a huge bullet last night , we really did, now we reload for Brisvegas.

inxs88 · Post by **inxs88** » Sat Sep 23, 2023 8:50 pm

CASUAL OBSERVATIONS:

1. Kudos Jordan DeGoey, the game of your life
2. Isaac Quaynor, welcome to A Grade status
3. Great to have you back Nick Daicos
4. Conor Idun, a genuine gun
5. Steele, clutch again when it mattered
6. Whingeing around the neck GWS & media: two words, Jack Ginnivan
7. Dan McStay: where was the free kick against Buckley and report?
8. Happy Birthday Craig, what a present
9. Jack Crisp, our best bargain recruit since Craig Davis
10. Grand Final Selection changes:

* Out McStay
* In Adams (sub if 80%)
* Ginnivan full game
* Cox and D Cameron can swap on forward line and replace McStay's two goals

11. Brisbane Lions: we OWE YOU!!!!!!!

inxs88 · Post by **inxs88** » Sat Sep 23, 2023 8:52 pm

Could Alastair "inarticulate" Lynch interview anymore Lions players and smile like a cheshire cat??? #biasedprick

inxs88 · Post by **inxs88** » Sat Sep 23, 2023 8:54 pm

Meredith1965 wrote:GWS have had ten years of concessions from the AFL as they tried to tilt the playing field in their favour to build a fair-weather fan base for the most Frankenstein team since Gold Coast. Those concessions accumulate.

I suspect GWS are the most talented team in the competition by some margin. This was a great, great win.

And they're still whingeing and whining. How's Jimmy "conflict of interests" Bartel using his 3AW platform to sell his GWS COLA propaganda for Assistant Coaches!!!

piedys · Post by **piedys** » Sat Sep 23, 2023 8:58 pm

Piesnchess wrote:IN my view, we defeated the best team in the finals, last night, I rate them over both Blues and Lions, unlike the Lions, they can handle the MCG. too ! We really dodged a huge bullet last night, we really did, now we reload for Brisvegas.

Realistically, we've dodged TWO magnum 45 bullets against both Melbourne and GWS.
Just going slight off trek here, I asked Jezza [forum stats guru] via PM which team had won both their QF and PF by the closest margins, and he tabled the scores below:

Combined QF + PF winning margins since 2000.

Essendon 2000 = 170 (125 + 45)
Brisbane Lions 2002 = 127 (71 + 56)
Melbourne 2021 = 116 (33 + 83)
Geelong 2007 = 111 (106 + 5)
Hawthorn 2008 = 105 (51 + 54)
Collingwood 2010 = 103 (62 + 41)
Brisbane Lions 2001 = 100 (32 + 68]
Adelaide 2017 = 97 (36 + 61)
Sydney 2014 = 95 (24 + 71)
Port Adelaide 2007 = 90 (3 + 87)
Brisbane Lions 2004 = 89 (80 + 9)
Geelong 2008 = 87 (58 + 29)
Geelong 2009 = 87 (14 + 73)
Richmond 2017 = 87 (51 + 36)
West Coast 2018 = 82 (16 + 66)
Essendon 2001 = 79 (70 + 9)
Geelong 2011 = 79 (31 + 48]
Geelong 2022 = 77 (6 + 71)
Richmond 2019 = 66 (47 + 19)
Port Adelaide 2004 = 61 (55 + 6)
Melbourne 2000 = 59 (9 + 50)
Collingwood 2003 = 59 (15 + 44)
Hawthorn 2013 = 59 (54 + 5)
West Coast 2015 = 57 (32 + 25)
Sydney 2012 = 55 (29 + 26)
Hawthorn 2012 = 43 (38 + 5)
Collingwood 2002 = 41 (13 + 28]
Fremantle 2013 = 40 (15 + 25)
Hawthorn 2014 = 39 (36 + 3)
Sydney 2006 = 36 (1 + 35)
St Kilda 2009 = 35 (28 + 7)
St Kilda 2010 = 28 (4 + 24)
Collingwood 2011 = 23 (20 + 3)
Sydney 2022 = 23 (22 + 1)
West Coast 2005 = 20 (4 + 16)
Collingwood 2023 = 8 (7 + 1)

Yes, we own that dubious honour by some margin!

K · Post by K » Sat Sep 23, 2023 9:02 pm

inxs88 wrote:...
And they're still whingeing and whining. How's Jimmy "conflict of interests" Bartel using his 3AW platform to sell his GWS COLA propaganda for Assistant Coaches!!!

Poor 'ol Jimmy will have to put up with Eddie on Footy Classified Wednesday.
AND preview with Lloyd Coll. v. Brissy.
Surely ya can spare Jimmy some sympathy.

inxs88 · Post by **inxs88** » Sat Sep 23, 2023 11:07 pm

K wrote:
inxs88 wrote:...
And they're still whingeing and whining. How's Jimmy "conflict of interests" Bartel using his 3AW platform to sell his GWS COLA propaganda for Assistant Coaches!!!
Poor 'ol Jimmy will have to put up with Eddie on Footy Classified Wednesday.
AND preview with Lloyd Coll. v. Brissy.
Surely ya can spare Jimmy some sympathy.

No! We owe him for 2011 GF

Post by **Jezza** » Sun Sep 24, 2023 12:03 am

piedys wrote:Realistically, we've dodged TWO magnum 45 bullets against both Melbourne and GWS.
Just going slight off trek here, I asked Jezza [forum stats guru] via PM which team had won both their QF and PF by the closest margins, and he tabled the scores below:

Combined QF + PF winning margins since 2000.

Essendon 2000 = 170 (125 + 45)
Brisbane Lions 2002 = 127 (71 + 56)
Melbourne 2021 = 116 (33 + 83)
Geelong 2007 = 111 (106 + 5)
Hawthorn 2008 = 105 (51 + 54)
Collingwood 2010 = 103 (62 + 41)
Brisbane Lions 2001 = 100 (32 + 68]
Adelaide 2017 = 97 (36 + 61)
Sydney 2014 = 95 (24 + 71)
Port Adelaide 2007 = 90 (3 + 87)
Brisbane Lions 2004 = 89 (80 + 9)
Geelong 2008 = 87 (58 + 29)
Geelong 2009 = 87 (14 + 73)
Richmond 2017 = 87 (51 + 36)
West Coast 2018 = 82 (16 + 66)
Essendon 2001 = 79 (70 + 9)
Geelong 2011 = 79 (31 + 48]
Geelong 2022 = 77 (6 + 71)
Richmond 2019 = 66 (47 + 19)
Port Adelaide 2004 = 61 (55 + 6)
Melbourne 2000 = 59 (9 + 50)
Collingwood 2003 = 59 (15 + 44)
Hawthorn 2013 = 59 (54 + 5)
West Coast 2015 = 57 (32 + 25)
Sydney 2012 = 55 (29 + 26)
Hawthorn 2012 = 43 (38 + 5)
Collingwood 2002 = 41 (13 + 28]
Fremantle 2013 = 40 (15 + 25)
Hawthorn 2014 = 39 (36 + 3)
Sydney 2006 = 36 (1 + 35)
St Kilda 2009 = 35 (28 + 7)
St Kilda 2010 = 28 (4 + 24)
Collingwood 2011 = 23 (20 + 3)
Sydney 2022 = 23 (22 + 1)
West Coast 2005 = 20 (4 + 16)
Collingwood 2023 = 8 (7 + 1)

Yes, we own that dubious honour by some margin!

Worth adding Brisbane Lions 2023 = 64 (48 + 16).

What'sinaname · Post by **What'sinaname** » Sun Sep 24, 2023 6:12 am

^ the upside to that

We lost both finals last year by about the same margins. So we've turned that bit around.

DT · Post by DT » Sun Sep 24, 2023 9:19 am

Agree INXS88 - maybe a smaller forward set up may be better to keep McKenna and Coleman (who I rate very highly) busy

Mr Miyagi · Post by **Mr Miyagi** » Sun Sep 24, 2023 9:27 am

Oh ffs we beat both Melbourne and GWS. We won. We didn’t “dodge a bullet.” That implies we shouldn’t be here, we’re pretenders (most popular commend in the game day threads). Have some damn confidence and pride in our abilities to win games instead of “oooh we’re not that good, we’re really lucky to be here blah blah.” We WON our way to a GF and we’ll win that one too. Go Pies!

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