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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:29 pm
by RudeBoy
In any case, believe it or not $450,000 pa is not huge money for an AFL player. It's certainly good money, but given the average salary of close to $300,000 these days, it's not massive for a top player. Greenwood is a player who just came equal 2nd as the Roos best player, in a team which made the Prelim final. He will be able to slot straight into our side and fill the void left by Beams. Overall, I think its a great deal, assuming we can get the deal done.

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:31 pm
by Joel
CarringbushCigar wrote:Now we are offering twice that for a 26yo with 70 games under his belt, that we may have never met.
Rodney Eade on Levi Greenwood at the Westpac Centre today: "We're certainly keen to get our hands on him. He was very impressive when we spoke to him."

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:33 pm
by CarringbushCigar
450k for 4 years is not huge money?

My god what planet do u live on?

Thats 25-30 years on an average wage is it not?

I just hope he fits in with the 'culture'.

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:34 pm
by CarringbushCigar
Joel wrote:
CarringbushCigar wrote:Now we are offering twice that for a 26yo with 70 games under his belt, that we may have never met.
Rodney Eade on Levi Greenwood at the Westpac Centre today: "We're certainly keen to get our hands on him. He was very impressive when we spoke to him."
Thank you this is the kind of information that is relevant.

Now I just hope we met him and it wasn't a satellite phone to Bali.

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:38 pm
by RudeBoy
CarringbushCigar wrote:450k for 4 years is not huge money?

My god what planet do u live on?

Thats 25-30 years on an average wage is it not?

I just hope he fits in with the 'culture'.
Buddy is on $2 mill pa and Beams is being offered $800,000 pa. In terms of AFL salaries $450,000 pa is not huge. If you don't know that, what planet are you on? :roll:

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:43 pm
by CarringbushCigar
You are putting Buddy and Greenwood in the same argument.

My primary concern is this is significantly a better offer than we could manage to present to Dale Thomas.

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:45 pm
by King Malta
CarringbushCigar wrote:
King Malta wrote:
CarringbushCigar wrote:Hey Mr Malta,

Thats why I'm asking the questions.
Where are my assumptions and conclusions here?

I think you must have drawn your own.

Strewth !!
Is it really true that we have just offered a bloke we have never met $1.8 Million?

There's you assumption.

Assuming we haven't met him is making an assumption. Pretty sure you're not privy to the inner dealings of Collingwood Football Club.
I am asking if it is true? Can't you read?
I think the 1.8M is close and could be unders.

Just wondering if anyone from the club has ever shaken his hand, sat down for a coffee with him?
I just don't see the need for the excessive negativity here. Greenwood is well worth 400-450k and I'm sure the club has done their due diligence before submitting the offer.

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:45 pm
by jackcass
CarringbushCigar wrote:I never lambasted anyone for not offering the 3.5M for Daisy
I was, am, and always will be critical for offering the 0.9M as has been suggested.

What choice did Thomas have ??

Now we are offering twice that for a 26yo with 70 games under his belt, that we may have never met.

Excuse me for being slightly concerned.
I didn't specifically say you'd lambasted the club over Daisy, just that it's occured. Just for your benefit, the 3.5M over 5 years equates to 0.7M a year and the 1.8M over 4 years offered to Greenwood isn't quite twice that, actually closer to half. Doubt the club would even entertain recruiting a player without having at least met him and his manager and struggle to understand how anyone would make that assumption.

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:52 pm
by jackcass
CarringbushCigar wrote:You are putting Buddy and Greenwood in the same argument.

My primary concern is this is significantly a better offer than we could manage to present to Dale Thomas.
Don't know how you're getting to that conclusion. Never seen anything actually reported but the scuttlebutt was that Daisy was offered $450-500K a year plus performance bonuses. If the ankle came good and he returned to something like his best he could have been earning $600K+. Less than the Blues offered but more than reasonable in the circumstances.

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 3:11 pm
by Podpicken
It is very reasonable, in fact, in time will seem like a steal if he soldiers on with the same form as this season.

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 3:19 pm
by Lazza
CarringbushCigar wrote:450k for 4 years is not huge money?

My god what planet do u live on?

Thats 25-30 years on an average wage is it not?

I just hope he fits in with the 'culture'.
So people are earning only 450K in 30 years??? :?

That is $13,000 a year?? :shock:

Any wonder you live in an eternally whinging bloody planet dude......... :roll: :roll:

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 3:24 pm
by melliot
I'd be pessimistic if I was on $13k a year. What does the dole earn these days?

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 3:25 pm
by watt price tully
John Wren wrote:really curious as to why he would want to leave a prelim finalist to go to a club that seemingly (according to some) has no hope.
Higgins is a quality but injury laden - injury prone player who can dispose of the ball beautifully.

A player like Levi at North is not unique & the club didn't offer as much as we did. Player found himself at the right time & right place got a decent contract. Not overs just how it situated currently. I understand that Facebook never said he just upgraded his room in Bali & is flying back business class c/o Garuda Air.

He will be a presence to assist Pendles in the midfield - strong mature body - as Hine was saying: they were mindful of having an under 20's side given the expected & unexpected departures.

From the AFL website:

:....The Western Bulldogs had also made a lucrative offer to lure Greenwood away from North, while Richmond had shown earlier interest in the midfielder.

"They (Bulldogs) probably had the better offer but in the end Collingwood was the better fit in his own mind, that's how Levi thought. No disrespect to the way the Dogs went about it....."
according to Liam Pickering, Greenwoods' manager

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 3:56 pm
by Az
My understanding was Norf only offered him a 1 year deal. Now what player comes out of contract in a year which could replace a midfielder on their list... :wink:

If I were a betting man, I'd say they were planning on ditching him next year for a massive play at Danger.

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 4:00 pm
by Bob Sugar
He isn't ours yet.