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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 7:29 pm
by swoop42
AN_Inkling wrote:^^I can't see it happening. Trading him at his absolute lowest value would not be smart.

I think it's more likely that we're waiting to see how much we can pay him once we've more of an idea who else will be on our list.
He'd be an attractive steak knife for any club.

His body is bound to let him do what he wants sooner or later.

I hope we keep him for this reason.

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 7:32 pm
by AN_Inkling
^^It's from our side that the mistake would be made not the other. His value will never be lower than it is now, you would think, so not a good time to trade him.

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 7:36 pm
by Culprit
swoop42 wrote:He wants $400,000 or so says the rumours.

Not worth that at present I would have thought.

We'd be offering more in the $250,000 to $300,000 you'd think.
300k is a lot to pay on Potential. In saying that we have most likely spent that on medical bills with only the best surgeons and medical staff. Ungrateful if he wants out.

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 7:46 pm
by Deja Vu
400k is not that much and will be 100k short of the projected average wage under the new broadcast deal. I wouldn't risk losing him for 100 - 150K a year, especially when there are other players who I would move on to cover the difference - Ben Kennedy for one.

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 8:10 pm
by jackcass
Good to see Shaz named in the VFL side. Does that mean he's staying or going?

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 8:22 pm
by swoop42
Deja Vu wrote:400k is not that much and will be 100k short of the projected average wage under the new broadcast deal. I wouldn't risk losing him for 100 - 150K a year, especially when there are other players who I would move on to cover the difference - Ben Kennedy for one.
Yeah but it all adds up in the end.

Cave into player manager demands and soon you are paying 10 players $100,000 more each than you'd like and there goes 1 million from the cap.

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 8:33 pm
by AN_Inkling
jackcass wrote:Good to see Shaz named in the VFL side. Does that mean he's staying or going?
Either that he's staying or we're not sure.

Would we risk him if we knew he was gone?

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 8:35 pm
by roar
Some players are worth caving in to, swoop, and I reckon Berg might be one of those.

I wonder what Rudi thinks. :D

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 8:35 pm
by piedys
E wrote:Xavier Ellis? imagine how good the Hawks would be if instead of Xavier Ellis, they took S Pendlebury?
Too bad, so sad. Cry us a river. They also passed over one Josh J. Kennedy, selected by Carlton, who was on-traded to WCE years later.

Yet the Whorkes did well for their "down" years; literally conned Freo out of their first pick in 2001, to trade them Croad for the pick that secured Hodge.
Then had him refunded two years later.

And scored the motherload in 2004 with Roughead, Franklin and Lewis.
Passing over Ryan Griffen in the process.

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 8:40 pm
by HAL
I can't imagine how good the Hawks would be if of Xavier Ellis they took S Pendlebury

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 8:54 pm
by Cuthbert Collingwood
Magic 8 ball says:

(Shake shake shake)

So much confuse!

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 8:56 pm
by John Wren
Cuthbert Collingwood wrote:Magic 8 ball says:

(Shake shake shake)

So much confuse!
win for sure uncertain.

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 9:04 pm
by Mugwump
Culprit wrote: we have most likely spent that on medical bills with only the best surgeons and medical staff. Ungrateful if he wants out.
Don't really agree with that, Culprit. As I recall, he did that knee playing footy in a Black and White jumper, not while gardening. he doesn;t owe us for that.

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 9:04 pm
by jackcass
AN_Inkling wrote:
jackcass wrote:Good to see Shaz named in the VFL side. Does that mean he's staying or going?
Either that he's staying or we're not sure.

Would we risk him if we knew he was gone?
Would we risk him if we knew he was staying?

Waters getting muddier by the day!

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 9:41 pm
by AN_Inkling
If he's staying he's part of the club and would want to play finals with his teammates. The only reason to pull him out is if he has ongoing fitness issues or if he's leaving and we wanted to play it safe.