Post inauguration Trump:
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- David
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And some of you guys think censorship on Nick's is bad...
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Not much to say about one of the best things to happen in modern history though....
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Of course not.
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Of course not.
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We've seen it all before and discussed it all before.Skids wrote:Not much to say about one of the best things to happen in modern history though....
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Of course not.
You're talking about a complex problem like you do sports betting, rashly jumping on board and manically anticipating glory. But we all know we won't hear a peep out of you if the gamble fails.
As someone who knows a little bit about the Koreas, I'm actually all up for taking an unorthodox approach with North Korea because it is so wedged in time and space. More importantly, South Korea has a liberal president who is willing to do what he can to thaw relations, in contrast to successive nutty conservative governments. And this Kim just might be different. He might not be, but he might be.
However, we still have to bear in mind the basic facts: North Korea is a pariah state trapped between China, Russia and Western allies, and it survives solely by maintaining menace and playing sides. Unless this equation changes dramatically, this photo op will remain nothing but Trumpian narcissism.
After Iraq, people surely ought to be very cautious about dabbling in things they don't understand. Trump gives the impression he can try his hand at anything without consequences, but mistakes in this arena could trigger regional war or worse. Even a bad mishap could easily crash the global economy. This isn't just another Trump business bankruptcy.
Just imagine for a moment an idiotic mistake coincides with an unexpected turn of events (remember, China, Russia, Japan and SK are also involved), or Trump is manipulated by much more knowledgeable people within the Republican party as George W. was. Trump is at once clueless and friendless; don't think it can't happen.
That said, the most likely outcome is this: North Korea knows Trump is simply trying to grab glory, and will oblige for their own ends up to a point, after which the status quo will resume. I can't see much harm coming from this, although others argue Kim is using it to simply tighten his grip.
But you have to acknowledge and own the risks with due seriousness, not jump aboard a situation you know virtually nothing about for quick glory while leaving everyone else with the adult worry.
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I agree with this, although I hold a little more hope. Perhaps Kim sees this as an opportunity for North Korea to become more integrated within the international sphere and perhaps to work towards a formal agreement that leads to the reduction of sanctions. Yes, we've been there before, but any opportunities for such a trajectory should be grasped.pietillidie wrote:That said, the most likely outcome is this: North Korea knows Trump is simply trying to grab glory, and will oblige for their own ends up to a point, after which the status quo will resume. I can't see much harm coming from this, although others argue Kim is using it to simply tighten his grip.
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Did you watch any of the testimony or just regurgitate crap from leftist fake news like Vox? Vox? Seriously?
https://www.foxnews.com/media/chris-wal ... -democrats
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... 2a7b3d2bab
https://thefederalist.com/2019/07/24/th ... democrats/
Not even the mainstream media are trying to spin this one, it was a shitfest. Mueller looked like a rambling fool.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/chris-wal ... -democrats
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... 2a7b3d2bab
https://thefederalist.com/2019/07/24/th ... democrats/
Not even the mainstream media are trying to spin this one, it was a shitfest. Mueller looked like a rambling fool.
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Utter rubbish. I watched it and Meuller came across as quite dignified. The republicans were simply trying to shoot the messenger because they don't like the message - go figureWokko wrote:Did you watch any of the testimony or just regurgitate crap from leftist fake news like Vox? Vox? Seriously?
https://www.foxnews.com/media/chris-wal ... -democrats
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... 2a7b3d2bab
https://thefederalist.com/2019/07/24/th ... democrats/
Not even the mainstream media are trying to spin this one, it was a shitfest. Mueller looked like a rambling fool.
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