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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 7:07 pm
by dids_04
DaVe86 wrote:Remember his return after a year out of the game a a few years back. Something like 30+ disposals, close to BOG. Carried that form right into finals until he tore his hammy. That hammy was done working his guts off as he was trying to break a Kane Cornes tag.



He would definitely be tagged. That means Pendlebury and Swan get it easy. Worth it just for that.
Bingo mate. This is the angle everyone should be using. His most recent form and the fact he will lighten the load on young Pendlebury and Swan is pure gold in itself. Look how much better Marc Murphy looked this year with Judd by his side, Judd always took the number 1 tag.....

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 7:46 pm
by nulla
Bingo mate. This is the angle everyone should be using. His most recent form and the fact he will lighten the load on young Pendlebury and Swan is pure gold in itself. Look how much better Marc Murphy looked this year with Judd by his side, Judd always took the number 1 tag.....

And this is my point with Kerr... since he has had to take the number one tag in my eyes he really has not lived up to his reputation.


Judd and Cousins still performed week in week out with heavy tags

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 8:01 pm
by stui magpie
dids_04 wrote:
Frank Stone wrote:With the retirements of some of our most senior group, we do need a few wiser old (footballing) heads in the group.

Cousins is a good footballer, I just hope he is able to contain his personal demons.
If Didak stays then it gives us two midfield guns
If we get Ben Cousins and he returns to the form he had in 07, we have added an absolute gun midfielder, one of the very elite. However when Didak returns, we should return him to where he can be the gun he knows how to be, return him to the half forward line. Dids is a great player but he is not a midfielder and not near what we need in the middle.

He is like Steve Johnson and we don't see Geelong playing him in the middle. Of course they have Ablett, Bartel, Corey, Selwood, Ling though....

Another reason we seriously need Cousins. Gives us the luxry of playing Didak where he belongs and where he can really hurt the opposition.
Disagree. From memory wasn't it Did's who played a blinder on the ball in the last quarter against West Coast in last years finals?

He can play midfield and do it really well. As can Leon. Let them both spend 50% time on ball and watch our forward line click with those two passing to them.

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:01 pm
by dids_04
stui magpie wrote:
dids_04 wrote:
Frank Stone wrote:With the retirements of some of our most senior group, we do need a few wiser old (footballing) heads in the group.

Cousins is a good footballer, I just hope he is able to contain his personal demons.
If Didak stays then it gives us two midfield guns
If we get Ben Cousins and he returns to the form he had in 07, we have added an absolute gun midfielder, one of the very elite. However when Didak returns, we should return him to where he can be the gun he knows how to be, return him to the half forward line. Dids is a great player but he is not a midfielder and not near what we need in the middle.

He is like Steve Johnson and we don't see Geelong playing him in the middle. Of course they have Ablett, Bartel, Corey, Selwood, Ling though....

Another reason we seriously need Cousins. Gives us the luxry of playing Didak where he belongs and where he can really hurt the opposition.
Disagree. From memory wasn't it Did's who played a blinder on the ball in the last quarter against West Coast in last years finals?

He can play midfield and do it really well. As can Leon. Let them both spend 50% time on ball and watch our forward line click with those two passing to them.
Yep, your right. Didak played a blinder in the final in perth, pretty much won us the game. That said, its an isolated example. He is not the week in, week out performer who will hurt the opposition in the middle. Nor is his defensive side that great either. Look, he may improve out of sight and prove me wrong but, until then, he is a gun as a HFF and should be played there. Particularly with his brilliant ability to kick goals from 50m out and in any part of the forward line, set shot or otherwise.

Leon is probably more the midfielder out of the 2 but even he has a way to go before you can purely call him a good midfielder. You look at the cream of the AFL gun mids and neither Didak nor Davis stand up in comparison, definetly not yet anyway.

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:33 pm
by Kingswood
ktszyu1 wrote:
Kingswood wrote:im starting to be doubtful of the impact he can make next year, he's over 30, soft tissue injury prone, been out of the game for a while...

i would absolutely love to have him but i think its dangerous if we start to think he is the answer
But he'll come for nothing, and we can afford to get him in the cap.

So it's worth the risk. The man was a superstar. If he can find half of that old form, we'll be set.
yeh mate my thoughts exactly, as i said definately would love to have him. but just dont want to get carried away thinking he will blitz it next year and transform our midfield. whatever positive impact he will have on our team is a positive given how cheap we will get him for...

i'm getting more confident that he will be a pie next year with each passing day...

oh god, us pies supporters will never learn lol. how many times do we go through this each trading period?

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:35 pm
by Kingswood
nulla wrote:I am interested to see where Ben will sit on Monday night at the Brownlow.






:lol:
MM's lap :lol:

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:55 pm
by nulla
MM's lap

For some strange reason I thought it would be close to cox, thanks for confirming :D

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 5:02 pm
by medders#7
just having him train would motivate the pies players to work hard

he works really hard at training might give us the lift we need.

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 6:20 pm
by killer
Eddie confirmed on SEN yesterday that we are interested.

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 6:31 pm
by stui magpie
Kingswood wrote:
ktszyu1 wrote:
Kingswood wrote:im starting to be doubtful of the impact he can make next year, he's over 30, soft tissue injury prone, been out of the game for a while...

i would absolutely love to have him but i think its dangerous if we start to think he is the answer
But he'll come for nothing, and we can afford to get him in the cap.

So it's worth the risk. The man was a superstar. If he can find half of that old form, we'll be set.
yeh mate my thoughts exactly, as i said definately would love to have him. but just dont want to get carried away thinking he will blitz it next year and transform our midfield. whatever positive impact he will have on our team is a positive given how cheap we will get him for...

i'm getting more confident that he will be a pie next year with each passing day...

oh god, us pies supporters will never learn lol. how many times do we go through this each trading period?
Good points all round. As long as no-one expects him to play like he did when he was in his late 20's, he could be a handy pickup. He's an absolute risk. We might get 2 or 3 games our of him in between hammies and delist after 12 months; he could go back on the gear; or he might play every game for the next 5 years and blitz.

We'll get him for nothing in the PSD (if we get him) so it's a risk worth taking.

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 9:36 am
by thebaldfacts
Lets not get too excited. Looks like Voss has expressed interest in Cousins, so with picks ahead of us in both the national and pre season draft, we can say bye bye to the Cuz.

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 11:08 am
by Alec. J. Hidell
National Draft won't be an issue

The PSD maybe if Cousins dosen't nominate us, if he does its all over

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 11:09 am
by Alec. J. Hidell
National Draft won't be an issue

The PSD maybe if Cousins dosen't nominate us, if he does its all over

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 8:01 pm
by Podpicken
Cousins was seen today at a hotel gym (Langham) with a former Magpie and now player agent. Not sure who, but assuming McDonald?? Apparently looking magnificent and fit.

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 10:37 am
by woftam
Podpicken wrote:Cousins was seen today at a hotel gym (Langham) with a former Magpie and now player agent. Not sure who, but assuming McDonald?? Apparently looking magnificent and fit.
Would be Craig Kelly wouldn't it?