One problem with this sort of failure of ordinary logical thought processes is that it tends to lead some people to the rather stupid proposition that we might somehow be safer if we all had guns.Skids wrote:On the other hand, this bloke didn't fire a single bullet.... so, a nut job doesn't need a gun.
The 2017 Manchester Arena bombing was an Islamist-extremism-inspired terror attack in Manchester, United Kingdom. On 22 May 2017 a shrapnel-laden homemade bomb was detonated as people were leaving Manchester Arena following a concert by the American singer Ariana Grande. Twenty-three people were killed, including the attacker, and 250 were injured.
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I can find plenty of massacres without guns, but I cant find any that lack motive or where motive was irreverent. Guns are not the only elephant in the room.....Pies4shaw wrote: People don't need any real "motive" for these atrocities. They just need guns, ammunition, a bit of anger and a degree of alienation. Looking for a "motive" is apt to deflect from the real point - whatever was happening in this tool's brain, it couldn't have translated into this carnage without the weaponry.
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Yes, I also think bombs shouldn't be available in shops.Skids wrote:On the other hand, this bloke didn't fire a single bullet.... so, a nut job doesn't need a gun.
The 2017 Manchester Arena bombing was an Islamist-extremism-inspired terror attack in Manchester, United Kingdom. On 22 May 2017 a shrapnel-laden homemade bomb was detonated as people were leaving Manchester Arena following a concert by the American singer Ariana Grande. Twenty-three people were killed, including the attacker, and 250 were injured.
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....sure,Pies4shaw wrote:It is. I'm glad you agree.
Guns serve no useful purpose in the hands of most humans but can do an appalling amount of harm with minimal effort. They should be generally unavailable in any civilised society.
.....so how are we to achieve this world wide gun free utopia...
...... a few examples come to mind .... but they always end up with one group of people with guns getting the guns off other people with guns, followed by an authoritarian government full of bureaucrats banning things and people waving red flags with farm implements on them.
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bombs are available at Bunnings, you just need to know what to buy.David wrote:Yes, I also think bombs shouldn't be available in shops.Skids wrote:On the other hand, this bloke didn't fire a single bullet.... so, a nut job doesn't need a gun.
The 2017 Manchester Arena bombing was an Islamist-extremism-inspired terror attack in Manchester, United Kingdom. On 22 May 2017 a shrapnel-laden homemade bomb was detonated as people were leaving Manchester Arena following a concert by the American singer Ariana Grande. Twenty-three people were killed, including the attacker, and 250 were injured.
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
Honestly who would look twice at a bloke carrying a suitcase in a hotel?Skids wrote:How, in the city with more security cameras than any other in the world, did he get all these weapons & ammo into his room?
He allegedly smuggled them in over a number of days and I assume the high powered rifles would have been disassembled within the suitcase.
The simple reality is assault rifles were designed for military purposes and should never have been allowed in the hands of civilians.
Honestly if I could be bothered I reckon I could blow away any card carrying NRA member when it comes to the gun control debate with just my words but what's the point?
Unfortunately to many Americans are idiots and most voted for Trump so expect him to do bugger all and if Sandy Hook can't lead to change nothing will.
He's mad. He's bad. He's MaynHARD!
