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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:41 pm
by 5150
Stupied wrote:
5150 wrote:
Stupied wrote:Leaning towards him staying. His girlfriend who he has just moved in with, is from Melbourne.
I hope your no pinning your hopes on a 19 year old AFL footballer moving in with his GF as a long term commitment... too anything! :P
Nope, but it would certainly be helping him settle in if he's in a relationship with a local girl.
Ok, lets hope she's a keeper! :D

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 7:20 pm
by RudeBoy
Of the 3 first year players we had in defence on the weekend, I thought Maynard and Marsh were far more impressive than Scharenberg. I keep watching him and keep seeing not much to rave about.

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 7:39 pm
by John Wren
RudeBoy wrote:Of the 3 first year players we had in defence on the weekend, I thought Maynard and Marsh were far more impressive than Scharenberg. I keep watching him and keep seeing not much to rave about.
i wonder if you subconsciously don't want to see anything in schazza because it creates a coping mechanism for you should he leave or you simply don't see it. back when pendles was finding his way i remember many keen watchers saying how time stood still for him and i was none the wiser to what everyone was raving about.

that said, there was nothing flash about his one quarter performance. i thought it was workmanlike and he did what he needed to do. gave away the odd free as you might expect of someone with his limited senior experience.

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 7:49 pm
by themonk
RudeBoy wrote:Of the 3 first year players we had in defence on the weekend, I thought Maynard and Marsh were far more impressive than Scharenberg. I keep watching him and keep seeing not much to rave about.
5 quarters of AFL after foot & knee surgery and you're making this call? I thought his 9 touches in a quarter against Melbourne was excellent.

You have reached the point that you want him to fail, what a shame

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Sharenberg speaks on contract

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:00 pm
by Neil Appleby
Matthew Sharenberg has again been asked about his contract and when he will sign it. This article just posted on The Age online, doesn't give me any further cause for optimism I''m afraid.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/c ... ivskg.html

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:05 pm
by Dave The Man

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:08 pm
by John Wren
"A lot of it was just about getting games under my belt, having spent such a long time out of the game."
happy to sit in the "nothing to worry about" camp. by waiting to play a few games (and nothing untoward happens to him in the meantime) he is no worse off by waiting a bit longer.

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:09 pm
by Dave The Man
Exacly what I thought.

Wants to play out the Season. Getting Senior Games Helps.

Try and get bit extra $$$ as playing Senior Footy will help that

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:11 pm
by Neil Appleby
Yes JW that's one way of looking at it and I know you consistently post about it not being an issue, but twice in seven days he's been asked about his contract and he hasn't said he wants to stay and he wants to sign. I'll remain sceptical until he offers real enthusiasm for staying.

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:12 pm
by John Wren
saying he wants to stay reduces his negotiating position.
i invite you to join lazza and me in a cup of the best oolong tea should he depart.

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:26 pm
by RudeBoy
John Wren wrote:saying he wants to stay reduces his negotiating position.
i invite you to join lazza and me in a cup of the best oolong tea should he depart.
I disagree. A player may want to stay....but only for the right money. Agents and clubs are regularly haggling over contracts, but it's usual practice for players to declare their preference is to stay at their club. Players who just say it will sort itself out at the end of the season are usually heading out the door. Think Scully, Ablett, Franklin and Dangerfield. Of course I might be wrong, but I think he's gonski. If he stays I wish him a great career as a Pie, but if he goes, I won't lose any sleep over his departure, as long as we get good compensation. To be honest, he doesn't excite me as a player much anyway.

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:28 pm
by Dave The Man
RudeBoy wrote:
John Wren wrote:saying he wants to stay reduces his negotiating position.
i invite you to join lazza and me in a cup of the best oolong tea should he depart.
I disagree. A player may want to stay....but only for the right money. Agents and clubs are regularly haggling over contracts, but it's usual practice for players to declare their preference is to stay at their club. Players who just say it will sort itself out at the end of the season are usually heading out the door. Think Scully, Ablett, Franklin and Dangerfield. Of course I might be wrong, but I think he's gonski. If he stays I wish him a great career as a Pie, but if he goes, I won't lose any sleep over his departure, as long as we get good compensation. To be honest, he doesn't excite me as a player much anyway.
Cloke and Broomhead did the same thing but he stayed :wink:

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:34 pm
by RudeBoy
themonk wrote:
RudeBoy wrote:Of the 3 first year players we had in defence on the weekend, I thought Maynard and Marsh were far more impressive than Scharenberg. I keep watching him and keep seeing not much to rave about.
5 quarters of AFL after foot & knee surgery and you're making this call? I thought his 9 touches in a quarter against Melbourne was excellent.

You have reached the point that you want him to fail, what a shame

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :oops:
Actually I want him to be the next Pendles and be a future Collingwood captain. However, ignoring the hype about him, I honestly just see an introverted, slow half back flanker, who is an ordinary kick, but one who reads the play well and is a good mark. Others obviously are seeing something else in him. If he stays at Collingwood I hope they are right and I am wrong. If he leaves, I hope my judgement is proven correct. Only time will tell. :?

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:52 pm
by themonk
RudeBoy wrote:
themonk wrote:
RudeBoy wrote:Of the 3 first year players we had in defence on the weekend, I thought Maynard and Marsh were far more impressive than Scharenberg. I keep watching him and keep seeing not much to rave about.
5 quarters of AFL after foot & knee surgery and you're making this call? I thought his 9 touches in a quarter against Melbourne was excellent.

You have reached the point that you want him to fail, what a shame

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :oops:
Actually I want him to be the next Pendles and be a future Collingwood captain. However, ignoring the hype about him, I honestly just see an introverted, slow half back flanker, who is an ordinary kick, but one who reads the play well and is a good mark. Others obviously are seeing something else in him. If he stays at Collingwood I hope they are right and I am wrong. If he leaves, I hope my judgement is proven correct. Only time will tell. :?
Let's hope you are horribly wrong, for all our sakes

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 9:08 pm
by Dangles
RudeBoy wrote:
John Wren wrote:saying he wants to stay reduces his negotiating position.
i invite you to join lazza and me in a cup of the best oolong tea should he depart.
I disagree. A player may want to stay....but only for the right money. Agents and clubs are regularly haggling over contracts, but it's usual practice for players to declare their preference is to stay at their club. Players who just say it will sort itself out at the end of the season are usually heading out the door. Think Scully, Ablett, Franklin and Dangerfield. Of course I might be wrong, but I think he's gonski. If he stays I wish him a great career as a Pie, but if he goes, I won't lose any sleep over his departure, as long as we get good compensation. To be honest, he doesn't excite me as a player much anyway.
He's was a top ten pick but has had an ordinary time with injury and hasn't shown a lot yet, so I'm not sure what adequate compensation for him would be.