Nick's Collingwood Bulletin Board

Museman wrote:

John Wren wrote:according to paul connors, they are dealing exclusively with brisbane. will be extremely disappointed if a trade cannot be facilitated but accepts collingwood holds the aces.

If it's Brisbane at all costs then any sympathy I have for his situation evaporates...

This is about getting him closer to his father, not getting him to a certain team.

Neil Appleby wrote:What I understand from all of the press articles and from qldmagpie67 is that:

Beams wants to go home to be with his ailing dad
He is not walking out on Collingwood
He wants a trade to a Qld club, preferably Brisbane
Gold Coast is not able to trade due to salary cap restrictions
Collingwood wants to keep Beams but understands this is unlikely to happen

Beams wants to assist Collingwood in getting adequate compensation

Buckley says No.4 and a player or players; nothing less

Think I got all that correct, so Brisbane does a deal swiftly to assist Beams getting back home, a deal that Collingwood accepts, or Beams stays a Collingwood player for a year. Dayne is not quitting the club or sitting out a season.

My gut feeling is he'll end up a Lion and we will get the deal we want. Win win.

Museman wrote:Brisbane say pick 4 on it's own is fair....

And if they have to wait...they may have to wait.....

Nice choice Dayne!

Brisbane clearly cares about your predicament.

qldmagpie67 wrote:Howdy all. Well I managed to catch up with Dayne's dad over the weekend.
I won't go into the conversation at any length due to it being a private conversation but suffice to say his illness issues are far from over.
I will however give up some insight into what has been a long running issue for Dayne.
His dads battle has been ongoing for the past several months and it has taken a huge personal toll on Dayne. Early on Dayne wasnt fully aware of the seriousness of the illness but more recently found out from his mother the true depth of what has happened.
The request for a trade came after Dayne spoke at length with both his father and mother as he was struggling to come to terms with the whole situation.
Dayne and his dad are very close and during the course of the year they club has been aware of his fathers battle and been very good to Dayne and his family.
I can confirm 100% this isn't about $$$ yes Dayne would receive more $$$ than his current contract but he would receive very close to the lions supposed offer if he remained at the pies.
This is all about a kid who wants to be close to his father.
The only part of the conversation I am prepared to recount is his father said that Dayne is fully aware that the pies are entitled to be fairly compensated in the trade process. He also stated that Eddie, Bucks and Pert had been nothing but totally supportive of Dayne during all this.
At the end of the day Dayne wouldn't be the only player in the history of the game to have to deal with a family issue and everyone handles it in there own way. No one even his harshest critic would be able say Dayne didn't give his absolute best at all times during the past season given the circumstances of his off field issues.
I am of the opinion now (and it's only MY opinion) that the club will do there best to facilitate a trade but if they can't reach a fair agreement Dayne will honour his contract and give nothing less than 100% each and every week as he has in every gem he has played for the club.
I know some will say I have only rehashed previously stated comments and in part that's true but unfortunately I am not willing to divulge the contents of our private conversations on here given the circumstances.
We can debate what's an acceptable trade to the cows come home and we can hope, wish and pray for them but please everyone think of this.
At the end of the day no matter what the trade outcome is it won't change the battle his father has faced or faces in the future.

Bucks2014 wrote:



Not buying that Gold Coast aren't interested, they wanted this kid bad before we drafted him.

Manager coming out stating it's in Collingwood's best interests that they deal with Brisbane and possibly bring other clubs into it, thought he was still contracted to us.

Lazza wrote:

Bucks2014 wrote:Surely this is bull, as I can't find any info, but Trade whisper sights etc on Facebook are saying according to Damien Barrett Alex Fasolo has requested a trade.This crap will be enough for Mitch Clark and others to say no to us.

Only for information here but I was told the very same thing on Grand Final day in Melbourne but it was without any substantiation or concrete evidence so I dismissed it as pure speculation.....

Defender wrote:

Museman wrote:Brisbane say pick 4 on it's own is fair....

And if they have to wait...they may have to wait.....

Nice choice Dayne!

Brisbane clearly cares about your predicament.

We won't take pick 4 only, I'm thinking we'll want their second rounder 'or' a decent player as well, forget about pick 4 and one of their young guns, won't happen.

Harvey wrote:

qldmagpie67 wrote:Howdy all. Well I managed to catch up with Dayne's dad over the weekend.
I won't go into the conversation at any length due to it being a private conversation but suffice to say his illness issues are far from over.
I will however give up some insight into what has been a long running issue for Dayne.
His dads battle has been ongoing for the past several months and it has taken a huge personal toll on Dayne. Early on Dayne wasnt fully aware of the seriousness of the illness but more recently found out from his mother the true depth of what has happened.
The request for a trade came after Dayne spoke at length with both his father and mother as he was struggling to come to terms with the whole situation.
Dayne and his dad are very close and during the course of the year they club has been aware of his fathers battle and been very good to Dayne and his family.
I can confirm 100% this isn't about $$$ yes Dayne would receive more $$$ than his current contract but he would receive very close to the lions supposed offer if he remained at the pies.
This is all about a kid who wants to be close to his father.
The only part of the conversation I am prepared to recount is his father said that Dayne is fully aware that the pies are entitled to be fairly compensated in the trade process. He also stated that Eddie, Bucks and Pert had been nothing but totally supportive of Dayne during all this.
At the end of the day Dayne wouldn't be the only player in the history of the game to have to deal with a family issue and everyone handles it in there own way. No one even his harshest critic would be able say Dayne didn't give his absolute best at all times during the past season given the circumstances of his off field issues.
I am of the opinion now (and it's only MY opinion) that the club will do there best to facilitate a trade but if they can't reach a fair agreement Dayne will honour his contract and give nothing less than 100% each and every week as he has in every gem he has played for the club.
I know some will say I have only rehashed previously stated comments and in part that's true but unfortunately I am not willing to divulge the contents of our private conversations on here given the circumstances.
We can debate what's an acceptable trade to the cows come home and we can hope, wish and pray for them but please everyone think of this.
At the end of the day no matter what the trade outcome is it won't change the battle his father has faced or faces in the future.

Thanks for the update qldmagpie67. I think it's pretty clear that if Dayne's dad didn't have any of these health issues that he wouldn't have requested a trade back to Queensland. As Paul Connors said, it's "99%" the reason he wants to leave Collingwood.

I don't think any supporter can begrudge him that. What is concerning, and I guess what a lot of supporters like myself are trying to ascertain through your postings and through others that have "inside" knowledge of the situation, is how much of that "1%" had an influence in Beam's decision. Would he still have requested a trade if he was 100% happy at Collingwood and Heath hadn't been forced out last year and he liked Buck's coaching style? Or more to the point, how much truth is there to the whole "playing group isn't happy under Bucks" and whether that's just limited to the senior players that were part of the rat pack.

CarringbushCigar wrote:

Defender wrote:

Museman wrote:Brisbane say pick 4 on it's own is fair....

And if they have to wait...they may have to wait.....

Nice choice Dayne!

Brisbane clearly cares about your predicament.

We won't take pick 4 only, I'm thinking we'll want their second rounder 'or' a decent player as well, forget about pick 4 and one of their young guns, won't happen.

Brisbane hold all the cards.

We are likely to get bent over here, because Collingwood don't want Beams to talk.

CarringbushCigar wrote:

Defender wrote:

Museman wrote:Brisbane say pick 4 on it's own is fair....

And if they have to wait...they may have to wait.....

Nice choice Dayne!

Brisbane clearly cares about your predicament.

We won't take pick 4 only, I'm thinking we'll want their second rounder 'or' a decent player as well, forget about pick 4 and one of their young guns, won't happen.

Brisbane hold all the cards.

We are likely to get bent over here, because Collingwood don't want Beams to talk.

jackcass wrote:

CarringbushCigar wrote:

Defender wrote: We won't take pick 4 only, I'm thinking we'll want their second rounder 'or' a decent player as well, forget about pick 4 and one of their young guns, won't happen.

Brisbane hold all the cards.

We are likely to get bent over here, because Collingwood don't want Beams to talk.

Quite the opposite actually. He's contracted to Collingwood for 2015 and doesn't qualify for FA until the end of 2016. So technically he could opt for the draft at the end of 2015 as an uncontracted player, hope he likes the idea of playing at St Kilda or Melbourne.

qldmagpie67 wrote:Howdy all. Well I managed to catch up with Dayne's dad over the weekend.
I won't go into the conversation at any length due to it being a private conversation but suffice to say his illness issues are far from over.
I will however give up some insight into what has been a long running issue for Dayne.
His dads battle has been ongoing for the past several months and it has taken a huge personal toll on Dayne. Early on Dayne wasnt fully aware of the seriousness of the illness but more recently found out from his mother the true depth of what has happened.
The request for a trade came after Dayne spoke at length with both his father and mother as he was struggling to come to terms with the whole situation.
Dayne and his dad are very close and during the course of the year they club has been aware of his fathers battle and been very good to Dayne and his family.
I can confirm 100% this isn't about $$$ yes Dayne would receive more $$$ than his current contract but he would receive very close to the lions supposed offer if he remained at the pies.
This is all about a kid who wants to be close to his father.
The only part of the conversation I am prepared to recount is his father said that Dayne is fully aware that the pies are entitled to be fairly compensated in the trade process. He also stated that Eddie, Bucks and Pert had been nothing but totally supportive of Dayne during all this.
At the end of the day Dayne wouldn't be the only player in the history of the game to have to deal with a family issue and everyone handles it in there own way. No one even his harshest critic would be able say Dayne didn't give his absolute best at all times during the past season given the circumstances of his off field issues.
I am of the opinion now (and it's only MY opinion) that the club will do there best to facilitate a trade but if they can't reach a fair agreement Dayne will honour his contract and give nothing less than 100% each and every week as he has in every gem he has played for the club.
I know some will say I have only rehashed previously stated comments and in part that's true but unfortunately I am not willing to divulge the contents of our private conversations on here given the circumstances.
We can debate what's an acceptable trade to the cows come home and we can hope, wish and pray for them but please everyone think of this.
At the end of the day no matter what the trade outcome is it won't change the battle his father has faced or faces in the future.