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burton
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Post subject: When did the rivalry with the Blues begin?? | |
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Was it only because of those GFs in the 70s and 80s or was it before that?
Sorry I know I didn't use the correct terminology and call them the scum. |
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Nick - Pie Man
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Pretty sure it goes back to 1910 or thereabouts. |
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Robbo.D.yobbo
The Toovinator
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Apparently, the two teams got along quiet well before the 1910 grand final. |
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Harrysz
Joined: 15 Oct 2001 Location: Melbourne
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In the 1960s an 70s Collingwood lost a series of close finals and grand finals. You may have heard about it.
More than any other team, Carlton and its supporters rubbed our noses in it.
That explains why we hate Carlton. I'm not sure why they hate us. |
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MagpieBat
Joined: 27 Nov 2010 Location: Brooding in a cave... somewhere... maybe...
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burton
Joined: 07 Feb 2011
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Harrysz wrote: | In the 1960s an 70s Collingwood lost a series of close finals and grand finals. You may have heard about it.
More than any other team, Scum (blue version) and its supporters rubbed our noses in it.
That explains why we hate Scum (blue version). I'm not sure why they hate us. |
No need for the smart talk I really wanted to now more about it. Thanks magpiebat for that link |
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Jezza
2023 PREMIERS!
Joined: 05 Sep 2010 Location: Ponsford End
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Everyone refers to the 1910 Grand Final as it was apparently when the rivalry with us and Carlscum began.
Hard to believe we were once 'friends' _________________ | 1902 | 1903 | 1910 | 1917 | 1919 | 1927 | 1928 | 1929 | 1930 | 1935 | 1936 | 1953 | 1958 | 1990 | 2010 | 2023 | |
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JAJH1
Joined: 19 Dec 2007 Location: The Gold Coast
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From Wikipedia-
1910 Grand Final
The hostility in the rivalry between Carlton and Collingwood is considered by some sources[6] to have commenced with the 1910 VFL Grand Final; until that time, the clubs were generally thought to be friendly terms.
Early in the fourth quarter of the match, while Collingwood was leading, a huge brawl broke out involving at least thirty players and officials from both clubs; the fight was described by experienced umpire Jack Elder as he worst he saw in his VFL career. Collingwood held on to win by 14 points, but four players were reported for starting the big fight and as a result were heavily suspended.[6]
Percy Sheehan (Carlton) and Jack Shorten (Collingwood) both were given 18 month suspensions, and Jack Baquie (Carlton) and Tom Baxter (Collingwood) both received 12 month suspensions. However, Collingwood appealed the Baxter suspension and produced a written declaration from another player, Richard Daykin, claiming that it was he and not Baxter who had traded blows with Baquie. The VFL chose to accept Daykin’s confession and cleared Baxter of his 12 month suspension. Soon after Baxter was cleared, Daykin announced his immediate retirement from VFL football.[6] Carlton vowed never to forget this day and they soon had their revenge by winning the Premiership from Collingwood in 1915. |
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Mossi
Joined: 20 May 2002 Location: Vittorio Veneto TV Italy
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Harrysz wrote: | In the 1960s an 70s Collingwood lost a series of close finals and grand finals. You may have heard about it.
More than any other team, Scum (blue version) and its supporters rubbed our noses in it.
That explains why we hate Scum (blue version). I'm not sure why they hate us. |
That's simple, we held just about every positive statistical record in the books including premierships we were the target until they started getting their noses in front. WE were a truly working class outfit and they were know as the silvertails ( like melbourne) the rivalry just built up from there. I hate them with a passion! Stemming from those three grand finals where, they seem to have won two from circumstances that equals cheating.... Halms episode and them coming over the top of an injury lame 1970 Pies side boasting about the most incredible comeback of all time................. |
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stui magpie
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
Joined: 03 May 2005 Location: In flagrante delicto
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It's genetic. It's hardwired into a Collingwood supporters genes. The 70's and early 80's just pushed it up a notch from pure hatred to something bordering on psychotic.
Offer me a choice of $1million and being able to push a button that would obliterate Princess Park while all players and staff were present (and I get to watch it happen) with the guarantee that they would never be able to form a club in any league ever again, I'm going option 2. _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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ANNODAM
Rebel Heart Tour - The Forum, Los Angeles 27/10/2015.
Joined: 02 Jul 2007 Location: Eltham, VIC.
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Carlton are shit! _________________ WE WERE ROBBED, RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME, RIGHT IN FRONT OF MEEE!
N.Y METS, N.Y GIANTS, PENRITH PANTHERS & HOBART HURRICANES FAN.
WE ALL LOOK GOOD AT TRAINING, IT'S THE MATCHES THAT COUNT! |
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3.14159
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As long as I can remember I've been jeering the Bloos more than any other tram except maybe Richmond.
The 1970 Grand Final set in stone my opinion of the flil...S Blue version..
Lets see how they compete without a Salary Cap Bonus. |
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And
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Thanks guys that makes sense.
In 1892 the CFC was formed.
By 1910 our club was 18 yrs old.
Like any teenager finding their feet, the club was mates with the scum who were competitors and equals.
The pies worked out the blue scum were enemy after the 1910 GF, that was then set in stone for eternity. |
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VicParkTragic
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Just before Eve ate the apple I think......... _________________ Living in Geelong, barracking for the 'pies! |
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On the March
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You may laugh but on my bucket list is that I get to see:
Pies beat Blues in granny (by one point would be nice)
Pies appear on top of premiership table (more premierships) above Blues
Pies win more games against Blues than they lose on all time ladder (the score currently sits at 125-116 against us with 4 draws. )
The last one could take a while so I might need to stick around a while!
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