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Presti35 ![Virgo Virgo](templates/subSilver/images/icon_mini_virgo.gif)
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For those who have watched the full replay, did BT say that Krueger had not kicked a goal at AFL level before the KBH game? _________________ A Goal Saved Is 2 Goals Earned! |
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Presti35 wrote: | For those who have watched the full replay, did BT say that Krueger had not kicked a goal at AFL level before the KBH game? |
Yes several times...
He also called Kreuger Frampton and vice versa on about 4 occasions. _________________ It's never as good/nor bad as it seems... |
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Well that's embarrassing for him.
You shouldn't have commentators giving our false facts. We shouldnt have to listen to commentators getting names wrong, fair enough with one or two mistakes, but if its happening over and over, then its showing a lack of preperation and knowledge. And we shouldn't have to listen to bias opinions either.
The Friday night team have to go. Every platform you read is calling for it. Hodge, Richo, BT... Just get rid of them. And dont give someone a job just because they have a name.
The WA team is even worse. Will Schofield is a bloody disgraceful commentator. Even worse than when Ellis was working.
Everyone says it, why dont they clean it up? It's very stale. _________________ A Goal Saved Is 2 Goals Earned! |
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Because there is a dearth of better options. However, Alastair Nicholson (who sounds remarkably like Huddo), although a relative newcomer, is 7’s best atm I reckon. I’d give him the prime time gig over BT. _________________ 'Collingwood are the Bradmans of Football'
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What about Jason Bennett? Should he get a chance to call the Friday night games? _________________ A Goal Saved Is 2 Goals Earned! |
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^ He would be better than BT and JB. _________________ | 1902 | 1903 | 1910 | 1917 | 1919 | 1927 | 1928 | 1929 | 1930 | 1935 | 1936 | 1953 | 1958 | 1990 | 2010 | 2023 | |
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Those commercial commentators(apart from Bennett and Nicholson) are terrible, it’s the ‘pats on the back’ to each other that are so not needed. Plus how boring and predictable is Hodge. Just a pity that the ABC has not got the TV coverage. _________________ "We go around with the British flag in the corner of our flag. Great states do not do these things" ... former Prime Minister Paul Keating. |
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Just read the comments in this thread and agree with most of them.
English Premier League commentary and their Test Cricket broadcasts are in the stratosphere of commentary excellence whilst Australian commentators (in the majority) are fairly mediocre...
For all the bile tipped on Eddie Maguire, he was a) exciting, b) accurate and c)interesting. Compare that to the call from BT last week where he named Krueger as 'Frampton' on no less than six occasions...
I cannot have Hodge commentating on any Collingwood game- he claims not to be biased against the 'Pies, but his words betray his utter hatred for us.
I know Tim Lane wore his Carlton heart on his sleeve, but he remains the best caller. Gerard Whately is informed like McAvaney used to be, but he is great to listen to. Dwayne Russell often seems to 'barrack' against the 'Pies, but his enthusiasm for the way we play is evident in his calls.
As for 'Special Comments', Wayne Carey was excellent, but we will probably not hear him on air again. Brereton has great moments, but sometimes tries to be too left-field and confuses listeners with babble (or is it just me??)
I have very fond (Old) memories of the ABC commentary team when it was Tim Lane (Carlton) and Peter Booth (Collingwood) with Special Comments from 'Crackers' Keenan who played for North and Melbourne and Essendon back in the day, but he also loved the 'Pies because he was Monkey's Ruck Coach in the late 80's and early 90's.
The list I don't rate include: Kelly Underwood, Hodge, Quartermaine, and BT.
Add to that list any commentator who regales his or her audience with tales of their 'glorious' past as a player to 'fill-in-the-gaps' of time during a match. _________________ Firm in the belief that number 17 flag is only months away... |
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And a very good morning to you Lad. May the chorales from madrigals of magpies fill your ears come final siren today.
We were indeed spoiled by having Bruce McAvaney and Denis Commetti for so long, who were the Torvill and Dean of the commentary box.
Those you mentioned in McGuire, Lane, Booth had what I would view as more traditionally trained apprenticeships, and when compared to the likes of BT, well its laid bare the gulf in their capabilities.
McGuire's first job in the media was an AFL statistician and cricket reporter for The Herald (1978–1982).
Tim Lane began calling a wide variety of sports with the ABC way back in 1972, including tennis, cricket, athletics and Australian rules football matches in the VFL and AFL before his stipulation he wouldn't call Pies games with McGuire saw him ousted from Ch9.
Ross Booth also began his, who began his media career in Bendigo, before commencing with 3AW as a news journalist.
This group are what I would consider as career media professionals, as opposed to retired footballer media personalities.
Much of the 'on-air' comradery comes down to the producers pulling together the talent mix provided within the commentary booth. Those producers are constantly in the ears of the panel announcers.
Look at the most successful on-air programs using examples like The Front Bar and The Old Ch9 Footy Show and Ch9 Sunday Footy Show.
What the producers instil is a so called on air 'balance', the equivalent of pantomime conventions of narrator, hero and villain. The trouble comes when those charged with responsibility to engage us in the spectacle forget their lines and overact (the inserter - read BT) or simply lack the energy required (Selwood and Cotchin), or inanely stating the obvious (Ling) who should take Richo's approach, less is more.
You mention Dermott, who's special comments insights are by and large engaging but as you point out, can often drift into babble.
So more of the likes of Matt Hill and Huddo to call the pace of games to elevate the overall quality of the call of the game, then blend insights to a match with special comments and statistics by former players. Surely, it's not that hard.
Finally, is it just me or has the underlying 'white noise' of the crowd been increased this year? You can tell during relatively flat moments in a match call, the equivalent of canned laughter is murmuring underneath the call. I get it that there providing atmosphere, but it seems to be noticeably louder this year. _________________ "The Club's not Jock, Ted and Gerry" (& Eddie)
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Damien wrote: | Brian Taylor still regularly MC’s Collingwood events and deep down is probably a Collingwood man, but as a commentator he should be impartial. I think in his efforts to show impartiality, he has over-corrected. By a LONG way. He now mostly comes across as anti-Collingwood. At the end of the day he’s actually just not a very good commentator. Bruce and Dennis on Friday nights were the gold standard. I never found either of them to be anti-Pies. I miss them. |
Spot on Damien. Agree totally. BT can be annoying at times but deep down there’s still a little bit of black and white in his veins…and he’s usually good for some light relief to make fun of his comments during the call.
Richo used to be relatively harmless and somewhat entertaining with most of his comments just a reverberation of other commentary around him but lately (started shortly after Tigs premiership run) he’s become much more of a whingey b!tch and increasingly nastier.
Hard to listen to dawks duo Hodge and Lewis are Pies hating nasty little snipers to the core…expressly evident most recently with their ‘unsociable’ opinions regarding Petracca’s injury and their low class suggestions the boys should have made every tackle on Petracca to the ribs, especially in one instance when his back was turned and I think it was Bruz who could’ve smashed him but didn’t….absolute hypocrisy.
For mine however the worst by far, and I mean absolutely atrocious, is that weasel of a man James Brayshaw. His moronic and sublime biased calls of our games utterly grates my carrot. His phoney excitement at our general play throughout the game and acknowledgment of success is spew worthy at best…the joy in his voice when we’re not at our best or the momentum turns against us is palpable. _________________ The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men... |
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The barracking today was another level.
How flat were they when the pies won?
I hate Healy. Don’t respect his opinion at all. I don’t think he even watches games, just pops up with some bs opinion when his pay check clears. _________________ The match day thread is for unfiltered BS knee jerk reactions. The time for level headed comment comes after. |
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ABC radio were pretty flat too, ex Bluescum Captain Murphy, real disappointed, typical ex Scum, he can go %$^£$%^&%% himself now. LOL. _________________ Poverty exists not because we cannot feed the poor, but because we cannot satisfy the rich.
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Honestly today they acted like supporters with their barracking it was embarrassing! _________________ Cheers big ears |
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Lou Richards was a very good tv commentator.
Commetti was next level.
There are a few good ones now, those who are focused on the game and informing the public instead of indulging in inane insider jokes which are unfunny. _________________ Daicos, impossible angle ... Goal! |
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Haff wrote: | The barracking today was another level.
How flat were they when the pies won?
I hate Healy. Don’t respect his opinion at all. I don’t think he even watches games, just pops up with some bs opinion when his pay check clears. |
They all sucked arse majorly this arvo - again; vomit-inducing crapola _________________ M I L L A N E 4 2 forever |
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