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slangman
Joined: 11 Aug 2003
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Peoples thoughts on where they think we are at on the famous
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I think we are around 7-8 o'clock....not as close as we might think...yet.
Good youngsters coming through but unfortunately don't have good enough mid to older player (a couple of exceptions Burnsy Medhurst Dids Davis Swan)
Until the older crop are filtered out of the team, we will always fall short, either in a prelim, or SF or finals altogether. _________________ - Side By Side - |
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swooper_101
Joined: 23 Nov 2002 Location: Victoria
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Next year we will be close. Year after it will be our year, watch. |
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Dave The Man
Joined: 01 Apr 2005 Location: Someville, Victoria, Australia
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Don't have enough 24-28 Players who had 100+ Games Experince to Make a Real Challange.
There too young or too old _________________ I am Da Man |
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slangman
Joined: 11 Aug 2003
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I really think that we are 3-5 years away from being a "real" chance.
When the young players of the last few years are 23-25, we will have enough good older players to complement these kids. _________________ - Side By Side - |
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pieboy
Joined: 16 Oct 2007
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What will count in our favour is that we have already got our kids. There will be precious few draft picks available over the next few years, and as our kids develop we could go past other teams |
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swooper_101
Joined: 23 Nov 2002 Location: Victoria
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Very true pieboy, excellent point. Go have a probie snack. |
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Mugwump
Joined: 28 Jul 2007 Location: Between London and Melbourne
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Hard to say - it depends on the rate of improvement. I think we have to be careful not to assume that, just because someone is playing AFL at 19, they are going to be a star by the time they are 25. I am not bagging them, but Cloke and Pendles did not quite come on this year the way I had hoped they might, and a lot will depend on the rate of progress of Clarke, Anthony, Dawes, Reid, Wood, Brown, McCarthy and Pendles and Cloke next year. It is still possible that some of these won't make it at all, let alone be stars. Collingwood's 1988 team had G Brown, McGuane Millane, Kelly and Christian and Monkhort, all young players who developed exactly as we'd hoped. Let's hope these others do, though it's not clear to me yet that they will
So at a guess, yes 9 pm sounds about right, but the clock can always stop !! _________________ Two more flags before I die! |
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Collingwould
Joined: 03 Jan 2006 Location: Brunswick
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we have a good young crop, and it will be on them to gel as a team unit, the way we played tonight suggests we are certainly a work in progress, but the fact we've made it through to the second week of finals with such a raw, inexperienced, and relatively unsettled lineup means that we should be able to look forward to the next 2-3 years with some optimism.
We will lose some experience, most likely Burns and Wakes, with Presti and Rocco not far behind, but we have brought in youngsters who show desire to perform for the jumper. No player will be replaced per se, but a new player will come in offering different characteristics. Take John McCarthy. As an 18 y.o. he is showing he's adapting well to senior footy, and will be a good servant of the club.
I'm not necessarily a believer of the 'hunger' statement that players use from losing finals. I do, however, believe in the experience factor. We lost a couple of key players after last and with that, experience and stability. So, with that, we are (hesitating) rebuilding the core structure of the football side around some young talent that will need to take the next step of leading our club into finals campaigns.
I speak of Cloke, Maxwell, Pendles, Thomas, Davis, Swan, and Fraser.
These guy's have been there before now, and need to take a next step. We have the likes of Brown and Dawes, Anthony and McCarthy stepping up also, that all players need to be leaders. We didn't necessarily have that tonight, and although I'm pretty dark we lost, it's how the coaching staff approach these key players (and I'm sure I left out one or two coz it's late) to really learn to lead.
The Aint's had leaders all over the ground; first to the ball, backing team mates, running in numbers. I'm sure a few out there will be hard on MM, but it sometimes doesn't matter how much you tell your players at the breaks, the hindsight of looking back at games like these will show that you can beat Geelong by 86 pts in round whoever gives a sh!t, but September is when legends are created......!!! |
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panga
Joined: 22 May 2003 Location: Collingwood :)
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Next year is still a development year to prime ourselves for a big crack in 2010. The impending loss of Rocca/Presti/Wakelin/Burns is going to be huge.
Hopefully we can groom/recruit players to fill these shoes. Brown/Harry as the rocks down back, I'm still not sure if Dawes will be ready to be #1 in a forward line in 2010, J. Brown would have been handy there. Hopefully someone like Cook can go somewhere to filling Burnsy's role. _________________ collingwood.. bowl them over |
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EBB
Joined: 26 Apr 2007
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Do they sell these "clocks" at the AFL stores? And are they accurate? _________________ understanding stuff, with endeavour to overstand.. |
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HAL
Please don't shout at me - I can't help it.
Joined: 17 Mar 2003
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Who are "they" again? |
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Piesnchess
piesnchess
Joined: 09 Jun 2008
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We are now at approx 10 45 on the clock,the flag time being from midnight to 2 am. _________________ Poverty exists not because we cannot feed the poor, but because we cannot satisfy the rich.
Chess and Vodka are born brothers. - Russian proverb. |
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Piethagoras' Theorem
the hypotenuse, is always a cakewalk
Joined: 29 May 2006
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10 mins to 12. Next year is 12 o'clock
If we all push our clocks forward 10 mins, we'll get one without playing the home & away _________________ Formally frankiboy and FrankieGoesToCollingwood. |
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EBB
Joined: 26 Apr 2007
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frankiboy wrote: | 10 mins to 12. Next year is 12 o'clock
If we all push our clocks forward 10 mins, we'll get one without playing the home & away |
Let's not push it, because we have to account for daylight savings in there, somewhere. _________________ understanding stuff, with endeavour to overstand.. |
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stui magpie
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
Joined: 03 May 2005 Location: In flagrante delicto
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We're at 10:45 and the clock is stopped. Next year will show whether we go forward or backward. I think Forward to about 11:30. _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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