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Crisp or Caff?
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swoop42 Virgo

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PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2015 3:07 pm
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Still some time off returning from his second knee reco anyway and will need plenty of VFL time upon his return.

Not the quickest around to begin with and how much this has affected him is yet to be known

Hard to see him getting back into the side this season unless he can find another niche.

The days of a tagger in the side as purely a stopper is fast becoming obsolete with players in that role also needing to get dangerous going the other way which Crisp is excelling at present.

Is a coach favourite so he has that going for him.

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PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2015 3:09 pm
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Stupied wrote:
Crisp. Just seems to be far more damaging running through the middle than Caff ever was.
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we can have both. caff as a lead up forward, high half forward. then send him through the midfield.

It's a nice sentiment, but who would Caff replace in the forward line? As a medium forward who can run through the middle, PK is superior imo, and he certainly won't replace Elliott or Blair. I'm struggling to see a place for him in the current side...


Exactly. Caff was never more than a defensive forward who didn't kick a lot of goals. I don't see where he gets a spot ahead of any of the guys in attack or defense right now. Sure that could change come the pointy end of the season where eventually bodies will be banged up and tired. But then we have De Goey, Marsh, Kenno, Freo, Schaz, Broomy and Faz waiting in the wings. How Caff gets a game ahead of those guys bar maybe Faz on anything other than senior experience is hard to see.
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PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2015 3:56 pm
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Crisp. I still think Caff can be valuable as a forward though.
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PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2015 5:09 pm
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John Wren wrote:
we can have both. caff as a lead up forward, high half forward. then send him through the midfield.


That's what I was thinking, haven't we got both.
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PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2015 5:18 pm
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jackcass wrote:
John Wren wrote:
we can have both. caff as a lead up forward, high half forward. then send him through the midfield.


That's what I was thinking, haven't we got both.


you poor fool. simpleton thinking. there is no longer room for caff so i have been led to believe. Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2015 7:34 pm
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John Wren wrote:
jackcass wrote:
John Wren wrote:
we can have both. caff as a lead up forward, high half forward. then send him through the midfield.


That's what I was thinking, haven't we got both.


you poor fool. simpleton thinking. there is no longer room for caff so i have been led to believe. Rolling Eyes


List is getting thin then, looking like we've already lost Keeffe and Thomas, and there are a few who (apparently) need to have there cards stamped.
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PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2015 7:37 pm
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Caff could play defensive forward to mind the oppo playmakers kinda like he did in '10. Didn't work for the Sack coz he's too fumbly.
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PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2015 7:38 pm
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jackcass wrote:
John Wren wrote:
jackcass wrote:
John Wren wrote:
we can have both. caff as a lead up forward, high half forward. then send him through the midfield.


That's what I was thinking, haven't we got both.


you poor fool. simpleton thinking. there is no longer room for caff so i have been led to believe. Rolling Eyes


List is getting thin then, looking like we've already lost Keeffe and Thomas, and there are a few who (apparently) need to have there cards stamped.


as players start to tire in the run him caff will be the perfect replacement. also, he's in that ideal demographic for finals footy.

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PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2015 8:05 pm
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Crisp as He Runs Both Way and Caff is only a Defender without much Offense
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PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2015 8:41 pm
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Perhaps I should stay out of this thread, but I honestly can't see how he fits in. Has never been a good kick for goal and believe he is worse since his knee reconstruction. If you don't believe me watch a game from last year, Caff is lucky to kick the ball 30 metres.

Maybe they could still play him as a tagger at times and let Crisp be totally offensive. Anyway the Pies obviously rate him more than I as they gave him another year.

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PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2015 10:36 pm
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I think Crisp might go beyond the run-with role, the way he's coming on. Crisp could wind up being our Swan replacement. If so, then Caff could return as a tagger. (Swanny is in such form that he might go till end of season 2017 though.)
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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2015 11:43 pm
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Definitely Crisp! He's been brilliant in his current run-with role but he's offensive game shouldn't be underestimated and his penetrating left foot has been great for us. In all honesty Crisp has been revelation for this side and the clear surprise packet of the season.

Caff is without doubt a strong tagger but offensively he's not the best player going around. He does have experience up forward as we saw in 2010 so he's more than capable playing forward but I do see him struggling to regain his spot in the senior side especially if the younger players maintain their form.

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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2015 11:59 pm
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Freo are going better without Crowley.

Food for thought.

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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2015 7:38 am
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it's not crowley per se, more so the role they have somewhat abandoned. it's been a blessing in disguise for them. run with roles can be counterproductive. anyway, players just need to be able to play the role assigned to them. it's silly to define caff as solely a tagger. he was able to adapt to that role so i am sure he can adapt to a different role if required.
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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2015 10:25 am
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I say retain both but Crisp is the first preference, Caff can definitely play forward depending on his recovery.
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