ISIS

[think positive]

[Pies4shaw]

[Tannin]

^ Ouch!

[1061]

[David]

[think positive]

[David]

[think positive]

The militant Islamic terrorist group ISIS has released a video called A MESSAGE SIGNED WITH BLOOD TO THE NATION OF THE CROSS showing the beheadings of 21 Egyptian Christians who had been kidnapped in Libya. Can you imagine the outcry if 21 Muslims had been beheaded by Christians? Where is the universal condemnation by Muslim leaders around the world? Here are the names of these brave Christians who are no longer walking this earth:

1. Milad Makeen Zaky
2. Abanub Ayad Atiya
3. Maged Solaiman Shehata
4. Yusuf Shukry Yunan
5. Kirollos Shokry Fawzy
6. Bishoy Astafanus Kamel21
7. Somaily Astafanus Kamel
8. Malak Ibrahim Sinweet
9. Tawadros Yusuf Tawadros
10. Girgis Milad Sinweet
11. Mina Fayez Aziz
12. Hany Abdelmesih Salib
13. Bishoy Adel Khalaf
14. Samuel Alham Wilson
15. Worker from Awr village
16. Ezat Bishri Naseef
17. Loqa Nagaty
18. Gaber Munir Adly
19. Esam Badir Samir
20. Malak Farag Abram
21. Sameh Salah Faruq

Please keep their families and loved ones in prayer. They so much need your prayers as they go through such horrific agony right now.

[think positive]

there you go, that's all i see when I look at that page, im not stupid enough to get taken in by the rest, and I don't need to read between the lines

"just the fax mam, just the fax."

[David]

[think positive]

The militant Islamic terrorist group ISIS has released a video called A MESSAGE SIGNED WITH BLOOD TO THE NATION OF THE CROSS showing the beheadings of 21 Egyptian Christians who had been kidnapped in Libya. Here are the names of these brave Christians who are no longer walking this earth:

1. Milad Makeen Zaky
2. Abanub Ayad Atiya
3. Maged Solaiman Shehata
4. Yusuf Shukry Yunan
5. Kirollos Shokry Fawzy
6. Bishoy Astafanus Kamel21
7. Somaily Astafanus Kamel
8. Malak Ibrahim Sinweet
9. Tawadros Yusuf Tawadros
10. Girgis Milad Sinweet
11. Mina Fayez Aziz
12. Hany Abdelmesih Salib
13. Bishoy Adel Khalaf
14. Samuel Alham Wilson
15. Worker from Awr village
16. Ezat Bishri Naseef
17. Loqa Nagaty
18. Gaber Munir Adly
19. Esam Badir Samir
20. Malak Farag Abram
21. Sameh Salah Faruq

Please keep their families and loved ones in prayer. They so much need your prayers as they go through such horrific agony right now.

[think positive]

There you go fixed for the second time.

But since you so like to pull out lines form stories, while ignoring the pure horror of the whole context, you know, like you did with the grey hound thread, how about you answer this rheotoric question:

Can you imagine the outcry if 21 Muslims had been beheaded by Christians?

[1061]

[Jezza]

Yes it's all well and good to criticise anti-Islamic propaganda but the very same people who do this don't seem all that concerned by the criticism of Christianity when acts are committed in their name. The double standards is astonishing to be honest.

The condemnation of the deaths of Coptic Christians at the hands of ISIS fighters in Libya needs to be overwhelmingly condemned by everyone especially by Muslims who want to distance themselves from such associations and to send out a strong message that this isn't a part of their religious make-up but the problem is though is that we're not seeing enough being done by Islamic communities to address these problems, and Islamic academics even admit that this is the case if you watch well-informed documentaries about Islamic extremism on YouTube. As a result this feeds into a level of mistrust between Muslims and Non-Muslims.

The Islamic State claims to be as Islamic as it comes and to a point they're not wrong here even though people are doing no favours by calling them "un-Islamic". ISIS follows a strict form of Sunni Islamism specifically Wahhabism so enough of this rhetoric that they are not Islamic and as such they're not a representation of the Islamic faith and Islamism.

In regards to this idea that 0.02% of the whole world Muslim population are fighting for ISIS this is true but what isn't being taken into account is how many Muslims either support or sympathise with ISIS' cause within areas they control or are fighting in and of course those living in Western secular democracies such as Australia, England and France for example. I suspect the overwhelming majority of Shia and Kurdish Muslims are against ISIS but the figure would be interesting amongst Sunni Muslims who make up the dominate sect of Islam and how many agree or sympathise with ISIS' cause to begin with.

The figures suggest that support for Al-Qaeda (a group similar to ISIS in many aspects barring a few small differences) is a minority in most Middle-Eastern and Muslim-dominated countries but it's not 1% as many are led to believe according to these figures conducted a few years back as the link below provides. The most frightening figure for mine is that 23% of Muslims surveyed in Indonesia have favourable attitudes towards Al-Qaeda so that's nearly one in four Muslims so this idea it's just less than 1% is a complete myth and needs to be busted now.

http://www.pewglobal.org/2013/09/10/muslim-publics-share-concerns-about-extremist-groups/

[stui magpie]