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jack_spain 
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Here is a great article by Anson Cameron. The best thing I have read on why (1) tanking was inevitable, and (2) the AFL was to blame for making defeat more valuable than victory for poor clubs.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/system-a-farce-andrew-20130119-2d06t.html
I really like the point about only STUPID people losing money because they were prepared to bet on Melbourne when it was obvious the Dees had every incentive to lose (priority picks).
How do you think we managed to pick up Pendlebury and Thomas in the same year?  |
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David 
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What an article! Absolutely nailed it.
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think positive
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Wow, that is powerful stuff and so true.
Stone the bastRd out of there.
Him and his stupid systems.
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John Wren 
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| think positive wrote: | Wow, that is powerful stuff and so true.
Stone the bastRd out of there.
Him and his stupid systems. |
yep, stone them. 
how would you propose to address the situation of poor performing clubs? allow them to eventually die?
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watt price tully 
Joined: 15 May 2007
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| jack_spain wrote: | Here is a great article by Anson Cameron. The best thing I have read on why (1) tanking was inevitable, and (2) the AFL was to blame for making defeat more valuable than victory for poor clubs.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/system-a-farce-andrew-20130119-2d06t.html
I really like the point about only STUPID people losing money because they were prepared to bet on Melbourne when it was obvious the Dees had every incentive to lose (priority picks).
How do you think we managed to pick up Pendlebury and Thomas in the same year? |
We list managed our players - sending for surgery etc (ultimately the same thing but different in manner).
Demetriou needs to be interviewed by Oprah!
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September Zeros
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Doesn't seem to offer any solutions...
Just another fence sitter pointing the finger at the afl's (nazi, terrible and horrible ) administration.
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think positive
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| John Wren wrote: | | think positive wrote: | Wow, that is powerful stuff and so true.
Stone the bastRd out of there.
Him and his stupid systems. |
yep, stone them.
how would you propose to address the situation of poor performing clubs? allow them to eventually die? |
We are not the only sport in the world, look at a more successful model of play.
I said stone him as a joke, but quite frankly I hate the prick and what he has done to the footy.
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| John Wren wrote: |
how would you propose to address the situation of poor performing clubs? allow them to eventually die? |
Dimmy added 2 in last 2 years.
It's time for that clown to follow AA and exit stage left. |
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David
to wish impossible things
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JW, the priority pick system was designed in the age of Sydney and Fitzroy winning one match a year each in the early to mid-'90s. It should have become obvious by well into Jackson's (and then Demetriou's) stewardship that the rule had been poorly implemented and was no longer serving its purpose. It simply took them far, far too long to do anything about it, and it resulted in the farcical consequences we're seeing now. The article, IMHO, gets it dead-on.
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jack_spain
Joined: 03 May 2008
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| watt price tully wrote: |
Demetriou needs to be interviewed by Oprah! |
 Well at the very least he should be made to front up on Q and A. |
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London Dave 
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| David wrote: | | JW, the priority pick system was designed in the age of Sydney and Fitzroy winning one match a year each in the early to mid-'90s. It should have become obvious by well into Jackson's (and then Demetriou's) stewardship that the rule had been poorly implemented and was no longer serving its purpose. It simply took them far, far too long to do anything about it, and it resulted in the farcical consequences we're seeing now. The article, IMHO, gets it dead-on. |
Fair point... strangely enough, the powers that be seem to have no problem changing plenty of other rules pretty much every season, but have never really looked into the heart of this one, despite making a couple of changes recently, the core problem of the priority picks (incentive to 'tank') hasn't been addressed, despite solutions being canvassed in the press and on places like here (an NFL type lottery for example). |
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MagpieBat
Joined: 27 Nov 2010
Location: Brooding in a cave... somewhere... maybe...
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| think positive wrote: | Wow, that is powerful stuff and so true.
Stone the bastRd out of there.
Him and his stupid systems. |
Just remember, no one is to start stoning anyone until the umpire blows the whistle... even if they do say "tanking" or "priority pick".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYkbqzWVHZI |
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jack_spain
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| MagpieBat wrote: | | think positive wrote: | Wow, that is powerful stuff and so true.
Stone the bastRd out of there.
Him and his stupid systems. |
Just remember, no one is to start stoning anyone until the umpire blows the whistle... even if they do say "tanking" or "priority pick".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYkbqzWVHZI |
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Albert Parker
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Vlad seems keen enough to adopt a bunch of other things from other sports. You'd imagine that the lottery system would be something he'd be only too keen to import!
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London Dave
Jete jedna pivo prosm
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| Albert Parker wrote: | | Vlad seems keen enough to adopt a bunch of other things from other sports. You'd imagine that the lottery system would be something he'd be only too keen to import! |
The problem being every man and his dog have already suggested it...it wouldn't be 'his' idea! |
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